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RE: [Fwd: Re: [RC] New Poll up] - Bob Morris

Jim:
 
I believe that what gets some of us upset in this discussion is that a figure gets quoted and is taken for documented fact. Like the ten fatalities now attributed to metabolic problems. No one has ever established the facts or complete cause of these fatalities experienced this year but I can feel assured that they were not all metabolic. Yet this is what is being spread by some accepted authorities. Just take Howard's "that ten to twenty percent of our horses get into trouble at our rides." That figure has no basis at all but will be bandied around for some time to come.
 
I still ask for a definitive study of the proximate cause of our problem and to have it well defined on line. I am willing to work with anyone who has all the facts to get this in the open and to stop the speculative rumor mongering. If we can get the facts we can intelligently promulgate mitigation methods. But with out the facts we can do nothing worthwhile.
 
Bob

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Holland
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:00 PM
To: Heidi Smith; Howard Bramhall; Ridecamp
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [RC] New Poll up]

Heidi, no offense, but this "I've been doing it for 30 years and I know more than the rest of you" is getting a little tiresome. I personally don't care if you have 50 years or 1 year in Endurance...your opinion is of no more value than any other member. One person, one vote, majority rules, and your opinion doesn't count any more than mine or anybody else. If you're not part of the "horse death" solution, you're part of the problem.

In fact, IMHO, one of the problems with this organization is that the people making the decisions have been doing that for too long.

Sometimes, as I found out with "30 years" in the corporate world with IBM, longevity leads to stagnation.

Sorry...again, no offense, nothing personal....just had to vent on this. :) (Lack of time in the saddle, I think....)

Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic
 
 >And, I do believe your numbers are incredibly off.  It isn't that .001% of our members consistently do the wrong thing, it's that ten to twenty percent of our horses get into trouble at our rides. Huh??  And where do YOUR numbers come from, Howard?  Darn sure not from anywhere I've been participating for the last 30+ years... Heidi


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