I
believe that many people on this venue subscribe to the "cause and effect"
concept. Especially in the case of horse fatalities.
In the
instance under discussion, the effect was the demise of an equine. Now, no one
has come up with a cause!!!! Much conjecture and speculation but NO CAUSE. We
must look at all factors. One small one that every one has bypassed is the fact
that the horses from that stable are normally barefooted. The horse was shod
just prior to the ride. Was that a contributing cause? There are proponents that
would say yes. Was the feeding regimen altered? Obviously it was and this could
be a proximate cause. Was there prior digestive system damage? we do not know
but if so another possible cause. Was there misdiagnosis of the condition and
therefore mistreatment? Investigation will tell.
It
would be assumed that the investigating body, remember this was an FEI ride,
would consider all possible causes no matter how slight. Slight causes are
additive you know.
Bob
Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID
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[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
rackinfool Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:44
PM To: Susan Garlinghouse, DVM; Darolyn Butler-Dial; 'ride
camp' Subject: Re: [RC] Adios
Well, as I recall, she did mention about the
elytes she gave before the horse left, and at the event. I am not pointing
fingers at all, like the rest of us, I am trying to discern something that I
feel is worthy of discussion, no matter whose horse we are talking
about.
We are all learning and sharing ideas
"Because of" the tragic death of Darolyn's horse, and for that, we are all
grateful for whatever information we can gleam.
I don't feel that the elyte question should
be shoved under the rug, I feel as Heidi and Gene Nance do, that we should
step back and see what the pros and cons are to all of this
electrolyting.
We know it causes ulcers and not
only in the stomach. Is working a horse so hard that we have to give constant
electrolytes good for the horse in the long run? or is it just another way to
keep them going to finish a race?
I will go back and find Darolyn's original
post on this and you should too and see exactly what she said about the amount
of elytes given. And as I recall, her thoughts that she should have doubled
the dose at some point.
you can defend them all you want, but there
are too many horses dying in endurance and there must be a very "complex"
reason why. I just want to find out more of the "why" in all of this. And if
we don't ask, or offer suggestions then how are we to
learn?
>Has anyone thought about the huge amounts of >Electrolytes that
are being shoved down these horses >guts?
Are you aware of the
huge amounts of electrolytes being utilized and excreted by these
horses?
>I can't help but to think that over elyting is a major
>culprit here.
How are you able to come to that conclusion when
Darolyn made no mention of the quantity or concentration of electrolytes
she supplied?
>Just my opinion, so no flames, but food for
thought.
Fair enough, but unless Darolyn would like to publicly
discuss the details her e'lyting protocol (and I hope she does), then
there is no basis for judging whether Adios was overelectrolyted or
not. My gut feeling, like Darolyn's is...not. In fact,
given that Adios seemed to have been a very high octane horse, herd bound
and nervous, then I would strongly suspect that adrenaline release and
the hormonal effect on gut motility, had at least a significant part in
what happened.
Susan G, DVM
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