Re: [RC] XP 04 - oddfarmWhere did the riders dump holding tanks? Can the shower water be dumped on the ground? I can see where a fence would be a pain in the butt. I am liking the Hi-tie more and more. How about propane tanks? Were there places to refill those? Are the rest days in towns that can support all the supplies, feed, groceries, propane and dumping or does one have to drive to another town ? How many people joined in at different spots of the ride? I don't think we can do the whole thing but we would like to do Wyoming to Nebraska. Lisa Salas, The ODd Farm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonni Jewell" <jonnij@xxxxxxxx> To: "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: [RC] XP 04 Well what advice would you give to us looking for a crew? What kinds ofthings did you appreciate, or hate about it? How can we riders help the crews best. I have never had anyone crew for me. <<< The XP2001, and XP2004, you need to have a driver / crew. After every days ride, you are in a new camp. So as the rider heads out on to the trail each morning, your crew needs to load up, and head on to the next spot. If you have extra horses, they need to be able to load them in the trailer, and DRIVE said truck / trailer safely. We had many different types of crews in 2001. Some were family members of the rider, others friends, while others hired strangers to work for them. One rider hired on a different driver from the area they were passing through at the time, for a week or two at a time. At the end of their time frame, the rider gave the crew a ride back to their home town, and then hired someone local from the next area we were passing through. This worked well for them, but I am not sure it would work for every one. Another rider found some college age students, who were off for the summer, and hired them. It was a great adventure for them, and they worked hard, and did a great job. Also, there were different expectations of duties from different riders. Some just wanted a driver, to haul the rig and other horses to the next spot, settle the horses in with food and water, and that was it. Others wanted more help with the horses, and maybe other duties during the ride. Shopping, laundry, fueling the rig, replenishing the water tanks, dumping any holding tanks in the camper / living quarters, buying feed etc. etc. Some wanted the crew to do meals, while other riders did pretty much everything, AND rode. I had a great situation, knew my rider and her horses well. I did most of the care, and also daily chores etc. We did most shopping on days off, and a trip to Wal-mart actually became a highlight of the day! <grin> I was lucky, as we didn't use any portable corrals. We tied the horses to the trailer the full 8 weeks. I felt sorry for the crews who had huge corral panels to deal with everyday. Unload and set up, then the next AM, tear down and put back on the rig just to drive to the next camp, and set them up again. That was a LOT of work for some of the crews to deal with, and it got real old, real fast for some of them. The best thing a rider can do, is communicate with the crew, as to what is expected up front. Spending days on the road with someone you know well or family can be trying at times. Doing so with casual acquaintances, or friends can end up in squabbles. (heck, married folks squabbled and did not speak to each other at times <grin>) What you CAN NOT DO, is show up to a ride like this without someone to at minimum, drive your rig to the next spot each day. Management has a lot to do as it is, and they can not move your rig for you. And unless you are family, chances of someone doing this for you for free are pretty darn slim. Plan on housing the crew, and feeding them. If you are not going to do so, then be sure this is all spelled out in the beginning, so both you and the crew know what is expected, what the pay and "benefits" will be. (and if I was a crew for someone I did not know, I would get it in writing) We had a few riders who would not even feed their crew/ driver, and were not paying them either. Thankfully for those crews, usually other riders or crews would "take them in" and make sure they were fed etc. A ride like this is a great adventure, for riders and crews. But, it is a long time on the road, and one must be flexible to go with the flow when things are not going as you might have envisioned them. You need to work well with others, as you may need help from another crew one day if you run out of water, break down or a number of other things that can happen. I'm sure some of the others from the list can give their thoughts...and may disagree with some of mine (which is fine LOL) . I am looking forward to riding in 2004....and we already have our crew lined up! <grin> Jonni in hot, hot Texas =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.endurance.net/ads/seabiscuit.html Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.endurance.net/ads/seabiscuit.html Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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