Fwd: So what the rucus RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not - Endurance Net
-----Original Message----- From:Bob Morris [mailto:bobmorris@xxxxxxxx] Sent:Wednesday, November 18, 20099:29 PM To:'Sandy Adams' Subject:So what the rucus RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not
A bit behind the flow; a short time ago someone questioned how many riders are we talking about that are doing FEI rides. The answer is very easy to discover. Just go to the UFEF pages and look at the list!
As an example:
In 2008 the AERC listed 6893 members
AERCI listed 420 members
USEF listed 86 FEI riders.
The big ruckus is about 1% of the AERC membership. Is it really worth all the bandwidth that has been consumed?
Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise,Idaho
-----Original Message----- From:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf OfSandy Adams Sent:Wednesday, November 18, 200911:01 AM To:Ridecamp Alexandria Subject:Re: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not
Read what I said - I said - IF MORE RIDES - not new rides - went this way, a huge number of us are priced right out of the market. By virtue of the PRICE of this KIND of ride - nothing to do with offering NEW rides wherever. The point that Kat misses is that when existing rides OR venues (since one of the other two GRD rides is in fact an FEI sanctioned ride) turn over "operations as it were to the needs of FEI, the ride/venue/event is somewhat less attractive to "AERC ONLY" (sorry - that is just laughable to me) riders. If in addition the prices follow the lead in anyway the track that this one has - even "just this once" once or twice a year, it ultimately has an effect on "AERC ONLY" riders. Even if we were forced to pay the STANDARD "going rate" that FEI riders pay rather than the $500 for a 50 milers, but possibly "only" $250-300 as some FEI riders have indicated they pay, the dampening effects on "AERC ONLY" riders will likely be notable. As I said, and only an echo of someone else's comment - perhaps it is time for FEI to manage and sponsor their OWN events under the eye of USEF which would be most appropriate. What I read below is focused primarily around what FEI needs and how it "helps" AERC riders. AERC has had a solid history up until present without the "help" of FEI, and I mean that strictly in a historic way. Clearly, FEI needs us far more than we need them. What I have gotten privately from people who don't want to get demeaned or slammed on this list is that the FEE is a huge concern, and after that, the PRECEDENT they fear being set in terms of specialty rides catering to FEI and what that might mean to limited venue resources, especially here in Southern Cal, where we lose trails year after year to both tree huggers and motocross riders, not to mention occasional natural disasters etc. The people who have concerns are trying to look forward which is wise way to look. Failing to plan is planning to fail. Also, I am told and AGREE -as much as many of us are happy for those who choose to compete internationally and are behind them - if it comes down to a choice between the large majority of "AERC ONLY" riders having facility and opportunity to ride )not to mention money) we choose us. It is not our job to make qualifying or competition easier or more affordable for them. Simple.
