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RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not - Maryben Stover

That does not make sense.  What specifically do you object to.  We run all our rides with a pulse box and it is much faster and smoother............mb


From: kskf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: merryben@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:26:57 -0600

The requirements that aren't AERC rules.


From: Maryben Stover [mailto:merryben@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:06 PM
To: kskf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not

Which specific FEI rules regarding the pulse box don't you want to abide by?
 

From: kskf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: merryben@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:53:37 -0600

Most rides I attend use a pulse box too. My issue would be having to abide by the FEI rules of a pulse box, which was Sandy's point.


From: Maryben Stover [mailto:merryben@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:43 PM
To: kskf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not

I am associated with rides that always use the pulse box.  It is a more efficient way to run a vet check.  It also keeps your place and no one can barge in ahead of you to get a pulse.  As far as being pushed through and not allowed to go eat, drink, whatever, that is something that needs to be addressed with the individual ride management.  You are allowed to enter the pulse box whenever you feel your horse is down.  There is no requirement to enter it when someone else tells you to.  It is just like AERC regular rides.....you go when you know your horse is ready.  If you don't meet criteria, then you have to start over and go through again.  That is also like the ordinary pulse check. 


From: kskf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:31:01 -0600

My feeling is to not be overly concerned about this ride as setting a precedent for all AERC rides. After all, as it has been stated here, the AERC doesn't put on rides, ride managers do. If a RM wants to put on a $600 AERC/FEI ride, they can knock their lights out and cross their fingers for attendance of regular AERC riders. This is where the free market comes in - most of us AERC riders won't go [and for those that do, hey, it's AERC sanctioned, not just FEI].  I don't believe these types of rides will proliferate when most RMs realize it's not a value proposition that will bring in enough riders to break even no matter how high they raise fees. Most of them know this already.
 
If I did choose to go to a dual sanctioned ride and ended up being treated as Sandy was [with the FEI box], I'd vote with my feet and tell my friends/associates why. Negative word of mouth reaches 11x more people than positive word of mouth. Let the market decide.
 
Kristen


From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandy Adams
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:01 PM
To: Ridecamp Alexandria
Subject: Re: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not

Read what I said - I said - IF MORE RIDES - not new rides - went this way, a huge number of us are priced right out of the market. By virtue of the PRICE of this KIND of ride - nothing to do with offering NEW rides wherever. The point that Kat misses is that when existing rides OR venues (since one of the other two GRD rides is in fact an FEI sanctioned ride) turn over "operations as it were to the needs of FEI, the ride/venue/event is somewhat less attractive to "AERC ONLY" (sorry -
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[RC] Here is to hoping it is not, k s swigart
Re: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not, Sandy Adams
RE: [RC] Here is to hoping it is not, Kristen A Fisher