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Re: [RC] okay, another question - Diane Trefethen

Truman Prevatt wrote:
If the trails are public trails - you cannot stop them from going on the trail. If the trails are public trails you cannot stop them from riding with anyone they desire.

Actually, you can stop them. Public trails or not, AERC has rules forbidding DQ'd horses from riding the trail* and non-participants from riding along with a competitor**, aka pacing. In the former case, a protest can be filed by the RM or any other AERC member, which if upheld could result in the DQ'd person being barred from future competition. In the latter case, if the complaint was made to the RM, the RM could strip the competitor of his completion on the spot which would also mean the competitor would forfeit any mileage and/or placing. Alternatively, if the RM chose not to act on an AERC member's complaint, that member could file a protest which if upheld would retroactively strip the competitor of completion, placing and mileage.

While it is true that on public trails, AERC cannot dictate to non-members where they can and cannot ride, it is also true that AERC members are bound by our rules and when they choose to violate those rules they can and should be appropriately penalized.

In response to Truman's attempt to differentiate between pacing and just riding along, it is important to note that the rules do not address INTENT. Were they to have done so, then yes, riding along might not qualify as pacing. However, in the absence of requiring intent, then the rules should be interpreted in their strictest sense, to wit, that any riding along will have the effect of pacing and therefore should be considered pacing, ipso facto.

*Both and L2.1.5.2 state, "Equines disqualified by the control judge must not continue on. This practice by a rider is considered grounds for barring that rider from future rides."

**Both rule 6 and L6 state, "Completion requires meeting all of the following criteria: k. Not having been paced or prompted by an un-entered, withdrawn, or otherwise unauthorized equine, vehicle, or a person other than another entrant..."

As long as I'm asking, I thought there was a rule against non-participants riding along with people in competition, even in an LD. I saw several people "pleasure riding" with their friends in competition. And the only reason it bothered me at this ride is because one of those people was on a horse that was disqualified at the check-in for dangerous behavior.


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