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Re: [RC] Excess protein - kramspott

Does anyone have bookmarked a link to various forage vitamin/mineral/energy contents?
I'm currently feeding hay that is 3/4 timothy and 1/4 alfalfa and want to see how it compares to what horses need

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From: Diane Trefethen <tref@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> > Question I have, ok so the protein maybe higher than the horse in
> > question (needs to put on weight) needs but even if you put a
> > lower proten that isn't necessarily going to make him put on
> > weight is it?
> >
> > ...back to the original question, why would protein be relevant to the
> > original question
> >
> >
> > It's not, really. They pee out the extra protein.
> >
> If that is all that excess protein did, it wouldn't be much of a
> problem. But it isn't. Below is a link to an article by Dr. Susan
> Garlinghouse on the feeding of Alfalfa that contains some helpful
> information applicable to any forage that contains more prote in than a
> working horse needs.
> When protein is metabolized, there are two pertinent consequences. 1)
> It takes more calories to process protein into a specific number of
> calories for storage than it does to process carbohydrates therefore the
> net gain in weight from a high protein diet is less than from a high
> carbohydrate diet. 2) Digesting protein creates as a by product more
> heat than the digesting of carbohydrates. In the dead of winter, that
> is a useful thing. But out conditioning or riding endurance, internal
> heat is an enemy.
> When we talk about keeping weight on our horses, we are rarely talking
> about the building of muscle mass... again an enemy of the endurance
> horse since it retards the dissipation of heat. We are usually talking
> about keeping sufficient calorie stores on our horses' bodies so there
> will be enough to fuel the stren uous exercise we ask of them. So if you
> want your horse to build up a store of calories, why feed large amounts
> of protein? Instead, feed more carbohydrates. Of course one of the
> goals of conditioning is to strengthen our horses and this means the
> horse will need proteins, more than if he were a pasture ornament. But
> as Dr Garlinghouse points out, if you keep the protein ration around
> 10-12%, the simple act of feeding more will mean more protein coming on
> board.
> http://www.shady-acres.com/susan/alfalfa.shtml
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