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As Kat said - a horse can pull hard enough to injure itself.  No  
matter what the system - the weakest link is what will break and/or  
take the damage.  If a horse is going to really fight the rope, my  
inclination would be to find some other method.

BTW - I don't necessarily agree that a horse just arbitrarily decides  
not to load.  However, trying to figure out *why* the horse isn't  
loading on that particular day may not be possible.  For all you know,  
the situation that day may remind them of a previous, bad experience.

One other note:  some horses don't always convey fear or uncertainty  
very well.  My fellow is kind of like that.  He doesn't always give  
much indication that something is bothering him - he may just  
hesitate.  If you push at the wrong time (go on, already...), then he  
will either try (with a big jump you weren't expecting), or get  
*really* scared.

On Oct 20, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Mike Sherrell wrote:

> Well, it can out pull the trailer too -- I had one tear loose the  
> trailer
> tie welding, on an admittedly funky old trailer. Still, if you want  
> to carry
> the debate to the absurd, there are ropes that are used to tie ocean  
> liners
> to docks ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Sherrell
> Grizzly Analytical (USA)
> www.grizzlyanalytical.com
> 707 887 2919; fax = 707 887 9834
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> ] On
> Behalf Of k s swigart
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:59 AM
> To: Ridecamp
> Subject: [RC] The horse can't out pull you (was: Hard Headed Horses)
>
> Mike Sherrell said:
>
> > Because the ropes run up through a ring in front...and then back to
> > you...the friction at the snub point gives you enough advantage that
> > the horse can't outpull you.
>
> Whether the horse can out pull you (a point I do not concede)  
> doesn't change
> the fact that the horse can out pull the rope (i.e. the horse can  
> break the
> rope, and the "weak" point will be where the friction against the  
> "snub
> point" has weakened the rope).  That mare I told you about broke six
> "unbreakable" ropes when the professional haulers tried getting her  
> in a
> trailer using the method proposed by Mike in his previous post.
>
> And if the horse can't out pull the rope, it can out pull itself (i.e.
> if the horse pulls hard enough and the rope doesn't break, then the  
> horse
> will--horses most definitely can pull hard enough on ropes to injure
> themselves in the process...even if the rope DOES break eventually).
>
> kat
> Orange County, Calif.
> :)
>
>
>
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