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Re: [RC] horse with body quivers - Elizabeth Chase

I had a mare do this back in May. 

However, I did have a causative: 3 days earlier, she ran through a fence -- at 
the corner post, tore herself up good. I'm a trauma nurse, so wound care isn't 
a problem for me. 

We were totally mystified as there were no overt signs of infection, save for 
behavioral indications and a temp of 110 degrees (F). 

Vet came out, found a wee splinter in the crease at the base of an ear, and 
lots swelling going into the ear canal. He removed the splinter, pus sprayed 
like a geyser for a moment. Gave her a mega dose of penicillin, something for 
her temp, and a 5 day anti-biotic regimen. 

Next day she was behaving normally (for her).

Question: is EPM a possible factor?

In humans, even a urinary tract infection can influence behavior, and in the 
elderly, they can become quite confused and delerious. It's also interesting to 
note that adult humans get ear infections all the time... and again, sometimes 
it affects a person's mentation.

I hope your horse recovers; to me, they are family.


--- On Fri, 9/12/08, Don Huston <donhuston@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Don Huston <donhuston@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] horse with body quivers
To: "Vickie Jensen Hogen" <vjhogen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 4:09 PM
Finding my horse like that would scare the crap out of me
and having 
the vet not know what it is...ugh.

This is a wild guess. Stop all processed type feeds and
they might have a toxin like that stuff from china in the
dog food. 
Check with the owner of the other horse to see if you were
feeding something the same.

Another wild guess. One morning my friend found his horse
backwards in a circle. He put a halter on to lead the horse
out for 
the vet and the horse would not go forward. These symptoms
completely different than yours but the diagnosis for my
horse was something I had never heard of. The blood test
showed heart 
worms and why that made the horse walk only backwards is a
mystery. I 
do not know what the treatment was but the horse recovered

Good luck because it always helps to have a little.

Don Huston

At 10:08 AM 9/12/2008 Friday, you wrote:
I need some advice.  My 10 year old arab was down this
morning, his 
whole body was quivering. Got him up with lots of
encouragement to 
stay up..  Trailer ride seemed to relax some of the
muscles and he 
wasn't wanting to go down after we got him to the
vet clinic.  He 
still had the shakes so bad that vet couldn't get
an accurate heart 
rate on him.  Gums were gray, temp was good, body very
quivery, no 
appetite, alert, balance seems to be off, reacts
normally when hand 
is brought toward eye.  Those are just random things
vet looked 
at.  Drew blood to screen for west niles.  Horse was
vaccinated with 
5 way and west nile one week later in late may or early
june.  After 
being at vet clinic for over an hour, receiving an
injection of banamine, and a dose of penicillin he
slowly quit 
quivering and regained some of his pep and personality.
(Hubby says 
that he was not really shaking even before receiving
banamine and 
penvk) We were able to get a resting heart rate of 28
on him 
then.   We were sent home to follow very basic care 
instructions.  Feed him 25% his normal amount and watch
him, call if 
quivering returns.

Vet was very honest, he did not know what was causing
the problem, 
he doubted it was colic, I didn't think it was
colic to start 
with.  Here is my dilemma, we have no idea what is
going on and one 
other horse in the valley showed signs that were very
similar over a 
week ago, she continued to get worse and is being put
down this 
morning, they only did a blood draw for west niles and
sent it off 
yesterday. So if any one has any advice the vet and I
are both open 
to suggestions.  I really don't want to get behind
the 8 ball.

He is currently alert and wanting to eat, bright eyed
and seems 
normal.  Unfortunately the other horse also seemed to
come around 
only to regress and is now down and being put down
probably as I am 
writing this.  Symptoms of that horses first day seem
to be very 
similar.  I just don't want to get behind this and
loose him.  Any 
other blood work we should be doing?  We are going into
the weekend..

No changes in feed or daily routine, high quality grass
diet.  No access to weeds or strange plants.  Has not
been exposed 
to any other horses this summer, The rides I wanted to
do were 
canceled, so we have done a few trail rides by
ourselves..  No 
obvious wounds or punctures..

If there are spelling errors and this is random, please
ignore, it 
has been a really crappy morning.. My son missed the
bus on top of 
all of this, and I missed my drs appointment..

vickie hogen

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Re: [RC] horse with body quivers, Don Huston