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What is vague is VC.  If a horse comes into a vet check and passes but the rider wants some kind of a RO then the horse does something within 30 minutes, can the pull code be changed?  Once the horse has completed the ride and has had the final exam, the completion code can't be changed.  Obviously there won't be any kind of a RO code at the end of a ride.

 

From what I read from JT, it seems he thinks there is another check after the vet check.  No, there isn't.  Why would there be?  You come into the VC, pulse down, see the vet, vet examines equine.  If vet rules equine fit 2 continue but the rider doesn't want to continue, the pull code is some kind of RO.  If the vet finds a lameness or metabolic issue, the pull code is L or M independent of what the rider's intent is.

 

Acording to Rule 6.2.1.1:

 

All equines must stand a mandatory post-ride evaluation

within one hour of finish. Riders may present

their equines for the final examination at a time of

their choosing during the one-hour period. An equine

that does not meet the established criteria including

pulse criteria within one hour of crossing the finish

line shall be disqualified. Once a competing equine

has passed the post-ride examination, it may not be

removed from completion for veterinary reasons.

This rule does not address VC.  Does anyone know if another rule addresses this issue of changing a pull code at a vet check?

Beth Walker <bwalker2@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> I don't believe #4 occurs. This is my understanding of the process:
>
> 1) You arrive at a vet gate, get a Fit2Continue
> 2) You decide to pull.
> 3) You tell the vet that you are not continuing. At that point, you 
> have to turn in your ride card, and the code is determined and recorded:
> -- RO: You are pulling for non-horse related reasons
> -- RO-L: Something is going on lameness-wise, even though it is not 
> bad enough for a vet pull.
> -- RO-M: Same thing, but metabolic
> -- RO-S: Same thing, but for cuts, bruises, cactus spines, tack 
> galls, etc.
>
> Once that is done, even if you go back to the vet for a recheck, or 
> things deteriorate, etc., the code is not changed.
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2008, at 9:19 AM, John Teeter wrote:
>
> >
> > This is pretty clear as far as it goes, but it does
>  not address the 
> > RO-L, RO-M, or RO-SF pull codes at all. It also doesn't address the 
> > (temporal) order of the evaluations which are performed by the 
> > control vet completely.
> >
> > So the following 4 step scenario is possibly the most common:
> >
> > 1) you arrive at a gate, go in to the vet check and receive a 
> > Fit2Continue evaluation
> > 2) you determine that you will not continue (note that now you fit 
> > in to the RO category as defined by M.s article)
> > 3) you announce you are not continuing
> > 4) you present for your final evaluation (if this is indeed 
> > required) and the vet determines that your horse is metabolically 
> > distressed or Lame and the RO is modified to RO-M (or RO-L as the 
> > case may be)
> >
> > Note that the two sentences quoted from Melissa's article do not 
> > address this scenario completely. They stop at step 2 I think.
> >
> > my
>  contention is that since 1) occurred, you have the option for 2) 
> > which leads to 3) and that by doing 4) the vet may help you 
> > determine if it is RO-L, RO-M, RO-SF, or just RO, but they should 
> > not re-evaluate their determination of 1), which was fit2continue, 
> > EVEN IF, at this point, your horse is not fit to continue.
> >
> > jt
> >
> >
>
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