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Re: [RC] [RC] Equus Resource Info - Diane Trefethen

Long - again <sigh>. I really need to learn to be succinct :( Next time :)

D'Arcy Demianoff-Thompson wrote:
Diane is that, truly, all that you got from the ENTIRE article! What about the part the "no one really knows" who was the originating equus foundation!"
Hi D'Arcy,

Originally I was going to post something more personal, quoting the exchange between you and Kathy, but I decided to go with the simple fact that according to the article you cited, our Mustangs descended from horses brought to the New World in the middle of the second millennium.

Is that all I gleaned from the article? No. Even though I didn't read it in its entirety, I was very interested to learn that genetically, the present day Tarpan is not necessarily the Real McCoy, that it was reverse engineered, if you will. Also that today's Przewalski Horse is "...the result of generations of breedings carefully planned by zoos, matings arranged to give the few remaining survivors of the species the greatest possible genetic variability" and that, "In 1968, the last documented native Przewalski was observed in the wild". It was fascinating to learn that in our country, passenger pigeons, which numbered in the billions, that's BILLIONS, "...were wiped out in only fifty years". John James "Audubon, in 1913, observed a flock of more than a billion." This last is of course a misprint. It should read "in 1813" since JJA died in 1851, making it very difficult for him to have been recorded as witnessing anything over 60 years later :)

In light of the semi-current argument about eating horses, it was also enlightening to read in the article that vis-a-vis the North American horse, "The most widely accepted theory is that man played at least some role in their extinction. Mankind first came across the Bering Strait land bridge shortly before the horses began to disappear. Coincidence? Most scholars think not." And, "Maybe the horse and the mammoth were preferred as a source of meat, as cattle are to North Americans today. Maybe they defied [sic] horses, the way Hindus worship cattle, but believing that horseflesh must be consumed to bring blessing to the tribe. Perhaps they spun legends and myths about horses, and believed consuming the meat of the horse would make warriors as strong and fleet as a stallion. Or maybe they felt that horses were a pest that should be killed and eaten on sight."

Despite a few minor mistakes, this relatively brief article is a fairly comprehensive history of the Horse and well worth keeping in one's My Documents folder for reference. Nevertheless, that has nothing to do with your implying that our Mustangs are *direct* descendants of the original North American horse, which they are not. What this article DOES say is that over a period of about 60 million years, the horses that were our Mustangs' ancestors evolved primarily here, traveled across the Bering Straight, migrated south and west, also evolved differently in different climates, were genetically manipulated by man for his own convenience, and were brought back here starting in about 1400 AD. That means our Mustangs are descended from the originals to the same or a slightly less degree as every other horse on Earth. But directly? No.

PS: Whenever one *quotes* another, be accurate. It is okay for me to be wrong but it is not okay for me to misquote someone else so that they might appear to support me. I have found that copying and pasting is an excellent way to avoid misrepresenting another's statements. Snip, yes, but only without altering the original meaning of the person quoted. In this regard, I couldn't find anything in the article with the words "no one really knows" or "equus foundation". Where does the author make statements containing these exact words?


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[RC] Equus Resource Info, D'Arcy Demianoff-Thompson
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