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why is it that we have the projects and i seem to be the personality to want it done "right now'?  I tried the treat thing last night and for the first time in 12 mos (after backing around the pasture for 8 min, with my arms sli in front and sli raised) I got to hug her! I mean hug with a squeeze and bury my face in her neck!!  Gave her a treat and left almost in tears.  I am sure she stood there for 5 min just staring at the kitchen window.

 

slow goes the weary and hopefully for benefit

Beth Leggieri <trailyaya@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Donna!

 

Our mares must be related!  My mare is turning 8, and your description closely matches my mare.

 

I can't chat (deadline at work), but I'm glad you were transparent enough to post . . . I've tried different approaches, am beginning to see some differences.  These types of horses are challenging, frustrating, and ultimately very rewarding -- to hang in there with a horse that others have given up takes determination. It is important to stay safe, though -- !!

 

It's important to remember that they are truly victims of their emotions.  And that has been my goal -- to help my mare "grow up" and become a "real horse" so she can fulfill her potential.  Her emotional reactivity is very high--a very sensitive mare.  We  have five horses.  All SO different. She is the most challenging--and maybe that's why I love her so much.  She is also the most fun to ride.

 

Our "rescue" gelding was terrified of loading -- he would do it, but it wasn't pretty.  He rushed in (or not) and would rush out -- over time and with lots of exposure, he now will walk in, stand, unload quietly, etc.  I have since learned that part of his real fear (he never go angry--clearly he was frightened) is partial vision on his left side -- which has explained a LOT.  My trainer never picked up on that -- it took a friend putting two and two together.  Sometimes friends who ****care****  about the horse can offer additional viewpoints and pespectives.

 

Beth

 

 

 

DONNA MARIE WINTERS <bob1andjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I truly understand what you are saying, and I agree.  But this a real project horse,  she will be 7 in May and I am her 6th owner.  She has a 3yr stud colt somewhere in N CA, i think she has never trusted or bonded? with humans, and she has been to 2 prof trainers while with me, she has done a 25 LD successfully and seemed pleased with her self, but she offers temper resistenance when asked to do something she does not totally understand and she does not seem to respond to tradtional training methods.  (not that i am a trainer) but the first one in North Cal when she was 3 coming 4 and on a breed lease, had her for 90 days training and just only say I had my hands full and she had a temper.  My trainers have been patient but it has been a year since she was with them and they weren't very encouraging then.  Time and circumstances have reduced my riding time and she was given to me because she did not fit into someone's breeding program.  She def has issues when I leave her in the trailer and even does not standing the the run in shed with out me and that is 16 x16.  any help from anyone??? greatly appreciated

Kathy Mayeda <klmayeda@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think that you should get help from a professional to teach your horse to load and stand in the trailer rather than further jury-rigging your trailer to accommodate her.  You want her to be well-trained so that it's not an issue in case she has to be hauled by someone else.

 

I hired someone to help me with my mare's trailer loading issues, and she pretty much accomplished that in one lesson. 

 

I started doing Parelli, and had to re-learn to load my other horse by "sending" him into the trailer rather than leading him in.  It was really amusing because my horse got real reactive when the Parelli instructor tried to load him and he blew up.  She asked how I ever got him into the trailer - "I just walked him in."  I always had to tie him in to close the divider, but with a Parelli instructor, she made him learn to stand in place. 

 

I'm not saying that Parelli is the only way, in fact, the woman who solved my mare's issue had passed a couple of levels in Parelli, but she did not use his methods in resolving my mare's issues.  She walked my mare into the trailer and stood with her until she relaxed, which Parelli would never teach in the program.  So if a Parelli-only horse gets walked into the trailer, what happens?

 

After this, I believe the ideally the horse should be trained to be both "sent" into the trailer and "walked" into trailer and learn to stand in place once loaded so that in any emergency situation there aren't loading issues.

 

K.

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM, DONNA MARIE WINTERS <bob1andjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have a CM 2 horse straight load with a ramp.  I now have a horse too long for comfort in the one side.  So I moved the divider over and secured it, and she fits nicely as slant load. But I do not have a way of keeping her head at the manger while I back out to lift ramp.

Don't want to tie her head as she has enough room to jerk back and scare herself and make a disaster.  I need something to pull across the back of trailer like a long butt bar or slant gate to close her in like a real slant load. then I can back out and lift ramp and drive off.

 

if someone holds her head through the manger feed door in front she stands  and all is well. but i NEVER have another person with me. 

 

I have started trying to put together the stall door mesh things that they use at shows and stuff.  but I can not pull it up fast enough and lead her and keep her at the front of trailer. 

Beth Leggieri
Denton, TX

"My treasures do not chink or glitter, They gleam in the sun and neigh in the night" - Bedouin Proverb

Or . . . The Middle-Aged Endurance Rider's Lament: "If you're gonna be stupid, you gotta be tough."

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