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It is very interesting to see this 20% number. Back when I first started 
the sport - this was the rule of thumb I was given by several veteran 
riders at the time. This was a number one of the more experienced vets 
at the time used as a rule of thumb. A lot of times in science a rule of 
thumb actually turns out to be fairly accurate. It all depends on whose 
thumb the rule is based on. If Richard Feynman threw out a "rule of 
thumb" in physics 99 chances out of a 100 it will turn out to be 
validated. On the other and if Alfred E. Newman threw out a rule of 
thumb... ;-)

The one thing I have noticed many times about treeless saddles is they 
don't have a tree.... well duh. They don't have a tree so they can swing 
around under the horse easier - especially horses with nice withers - 
than a well fitting saddle with a tree. I've seen that happen several 
time over the years and that was brought home again this weekend at a 
ride when not one but two horses went bucking through camp with a 
treeless saddle attached to his belly. If I used a treeless, I'd sure 
use a breast collar to keep it from going under.

Truman

Beverley H. Kane, MD wrote:
> As we have been discussing on TreelessSaddles, it is extremely 
> difficult to do legitimate, scientific studies of this kind. There are 
> too many variables: type of horses, type of riders, type of riding, 
> type of saddle. Plus, it’s not accurate to evaluate a report of a 
> study without reading the original methodology in the original paper.
>
> I was not immediately able to find Dr. Powell’s paper—maybe one of the 
> vets on the list knows how to use a horsey Pub Med, but I would want 
> to read the original for what kind of horses were used, how many 
> subjects, riding level of the riders, etc.
>
> Common sense says that any horse who carries too much weight will be 
> sore. But the data can not be automatically extrapolated to any given 
> heavyweight rider with a large horse, well-fitting tack, and advanced 
> riding skills.
>
> B
>
>
> On 3/2/08 7:04 PM, "Merri" <mer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>     Horsetalk.co.nz - Full Article
>     <http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2008/03/011.shtml>
>
>     March 3, 2008
>
>     Researchers in the US have bad news for overweight horse riders. A
>     study has found that horses who have to carry between 25 and 30
>     per cent of their bodyweight have more physical problems related
>     to exercise than those who carry 20 percent or less.
>
>     Horses carrying 30% body weight showed a significant increase in
>     muscle soreness and muscle tightness scores. The changes were less
>     marked when they carried 25% body weight.
>
>     More... <http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2008/03/011.shtml>
>
>     --
>     Posted By Merri to Consider This
>     
> <http://www.endurance.net/channels/2008/03/bad-news-for-heavy-riders-and-narrow.html>
>     at 3/02/2008 08:03:00 PM
>
>
>
> _______________
> Beverley Kane, MD
> Horsensei Equine-Assisted Learning & Therapy
> Woodside, CA
> 650-868-3379
> http://www.horsensei.com
>
> *The Manual of Medicine and Horsemanship--
> Transforming the Doctor-Patient Relationship with Equine-Assisted Learning
> **http://www.authorhouse.com/bookstore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=49669*


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