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Re: [RC] [RC] Carbon Monoxide Poisoning - Chris Paus

I don't know that it's AERC's rule so much as most campgrounds enforce a quiet time after 10 p.m.

 



 




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From: Mike Lewis <mlewis73@xxxxxxxxx>
To: SteveHallmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] Carbon Monoxide Poisoning
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:21:32 -0800 (PST)
>Propane heaters such as the Mr. Heater aren't safe, either.
>
>I wish AERC would consider allowing folks to run generators at night to
>stay warm with electric heat... While this story deals with deaths from a
>generator, I know that generators kept outside the trailer and away from
>the LQ section are safer than running propane in a horse trailer.
>
>Our next door neighbors at an AERC ride I did recently ran their generator
>all night. I had two options: complain to them or to ride management, or
>stick earplugs in my ears. To avoid confrontation (and to stay in my
>relatively warm sleeping bag), I tried the latter option. I couldn't hear
>the generator through my earplugs and slept like a log (except for
>freezing all night, wishing I had a generator too!)
>
> >From where I stand, the bottom line is that not everyone can afford an
>insulated trailer, propane heat isn't safe, and electric heat is the
>safest option. Not sure AERC would reconsider generators, but it sure
>would help us cheapskates pulling horse trailers without LQ...
>
>Not sure what other options may exist... I've found that a sleeping bag
>rated to 10 degrees is a start, but still hate waking up to ice on the
>metal bracing of my trailer!!
>
>--- SteveHallmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Not trying to open up a new argument on Generators, but just want to
> > remind folks of the carbon monoxide hazards when sleeping in a horse
> > trailer. The investment in a Carbon Monoxide Detector could possibly
> > have prevented this incident...........
> >
> > Two men found dead in horse trailer at SoCal equestrian park
> > The Associated Press
> > Published 2:42 am PST Saturday, February 24, 2007
> >
> > Two men were found dead in a horse trailer at a Riverside County
> > equestrian park after they were apparently overcome by carbon monoxide
> > fumes from a gas generator, authorities said.
> >
> > The men, identified as Jorge Rodriguez-Ramirez, 47, of Vancouver,
> > Wash., and Armando Sanchez Gallardo, 21, were discovered early Friday,
> > sheriff's officials said. It wasn't immediately known where Gallardo
> > was from.
> >
> > Their bodies were in a trailer parked in a lot at the HITS Desert
> > Horse Park in Thermal, located a few miles south of Coachella in
> > Riverside County. A portable gas generator had been used to keep them
> > warm as they slept.
> >
> > "The decedents appeared to have been overcome by carbon monoxide fumes
> > from the generator's exhaust," the Sheriff's Department said in a
> > statement.
> >
> > Autopsies were expected to be performed Monday.
> >
> > Further details were not immediately available.
> >
> >
> >
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