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RE: [RC] [RC] BC judging - GMM - Susan E. Garlinghouse, DVM

FWIW, I always try to talk with riders during normal vet checks as to what
I'm seeing.  Same as at the completion check.  At BC judging, I usually try
to give the riders at least what my impressions are at the time, although I
won't share my specific scores right then and there, nor will I comment on
how their horse looks compared to another.  I also make their vet score
available to them after BC is announced, and am happy to discuss it in
detail if anyone wants.

Sometimes during presentation, I may not say a whole lot, because a) I'm
concentrating on what I'm doing, which involves a lot of careful listening
to internal gurgling and thumping during which you're not available for
conversation, and b) I've seen vets accused of favoritism when they had a
friendly conversation (or, heaven forbid, actually laughed) with the
rider/owner during the presentation---sometimes better just to do your job.

It's usually not classified information to talk to the vet at some point or
another, though.  Most are happy to do so.

Susan Garlinghouse, DVM

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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] BC judging - GMM

Steve,

I couldn't agree more! Even when you are presenting your horse, they don't 
say much...!



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From: Steve Shaw <sshaw@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [RC]   BC judging - GMM
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:07:18 -0700

GIVE ME MORE!
This is something that I have been asking officials at many big rides for 
about 5 years.

When ride management/vets have all top ten horses show at the same time, 
especially at major events, such as Tevis, Old Dominion, NC Championship or

FEI events, why can't they share more information with observers, other 
than just the trot outs?
It would be MUCH more educational and interesting if they would share with 
us, at the time, some of their basic findings that are non judgmental, such

as pulse, respiration and cardiac recovery. If they are giving a hydration 
or gut sounds of A, B or C then simply tell us. This does not mean that we 
have to second guess them on the finding, but these parameters would sure 
help me is appraising the trot out, demeanor, finishing time and "look" of 
the horse.

What other parameters do they record that could be shared with us at the 
time that would be educational?

I would hope that AERC and others would join me in lobbying the vets and 
management to make the BC judging more educational and interesting.
Steve Shaw



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