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RE: [RC] [RC] Parelli (and other clinicians)-BAD BEHAVIOR - Jim HollandAfter slogging through all this stuff on clinicians, mostly the pro/con Parelli posts, IMHO THIS is the best, most insightful post so far. Every horse is different...but clinicians "assume" they are all the same. Every rider is different...but clinicians "assume" they all have equal skills. Why? Because it's no different from our public schools, which refuse to recognize that individuals learn better in different ways in different environments. It's impossible to deal with all the variations. If you only follow ONE clinician you become vary narrow in your vision of how to work with a specific horse or even horses in general. Look at ALL of them, take the best of each and come up with the best way for YOU to work with YOUR horse. Without going into detail here, I like some things Parelli does, detest others. Some of his techniques WILL ABSOLUTELY BE DISASTROUS WITH SOME HORSES. I have seen it a number of times. However, that is true of all clinicians. Horses can teach YOU much more than you can teach them if you are willing to listen. It's more important to be a "Horse Listener" (which is what Dodie is pointing out) than a "Horse Whisperer". Horses have no ego and live by a specific set of rules. If you aren't willing to learn their language and interact with them using their rules, you may be a "rider" but you will never know what it's like to truly "bond" with a horse. I have three horses, and I trained each of them differently to achieve the results I wanted. I was 65 this month....I have learned a lot working with horses for 50 years....and they continue to teach me every day. There is an old saying that goes "At least once in their life, every horse should be loved by a little girl". My Grandniece Hannah, age 10 has bestowed that honor on "Magic"...and changed him forever. There is a reason for that. The love of little girls for a horse is unconditional and without any thought of personal "achievement". I have learned much from watching the interaction between Hannah and Magic and I am in awe of how "different" he is with her. At the risk of being severely flogged here, horses are much like women. What works with one, will not necessarily work with another, but if you find the right "approach", the results are breathtaking. <VBG> Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic Richard T. "Jim" Holland Three Creeks Farm 175 Hells Hollow Drive Blue Ridge, Ga 30513 (706) 258-2830 www.threecreeksarabians.com Callsign KI4BEN -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dodie Sable Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:21 PM To: 'Karen Sullivan' Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] Parelli (and other clinicians)-BAD BEHAVIOR Ah - another one of my favorite lessons. Go watch a well established herd of horses. When one gets out of line, they get a head shaking or foot stamping warning (in my case, it's a loud "HEY" with a shaking of a finger in their face). If the first warning doesn't take, that horse will get ears pinned and teeth snaked out at them (in my case, it's a swift smack with a screech of "YOU BETTER CUT IT OUT") if the first two warnings go unheeded, that horse will get chased by flying feet (in my case, it's me backing them down the aisle way popping them with the lead line). In 99% of the cases, the first two warnings are enough if the horse knows the other horse (or human) is boss. Doesn't mean those two horses aren't friends, doesn't mean those two horses don't love each other to pieces, just means that one is of higher hierarchy than the other and the second one must demure to the first one's conditions of co-habitation. And yes, with a strong willed "herd boss" horse, the human sometimes has to resort to a heavy handed method of correction. I did not say "training", I said correction. For the most part, I've found the bossier horses easier to train than the submissive lower end of the totem pole horses. So, again, I believe that the clinicians give people a "generic, broad spectrum" of ideas and it's up to the person using the techniques to use those ideas in conjunction with their horse's needs and behavior patterns. And that doesn't happen with a "newbie" because they don't understand there's more than meets the eye...they take the training videos as gospel. I always say, "A non-horse person with excellent common sense can train more effectively than a highly skilled horse person with no common sense." Dodie =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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