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Re: [RC] Why "Naturalists" are Doomed - Angie Fura

Milroy - there have been many emails flying around on this subject!   Perhaps we're each thinking of different emails.
 
Just to clarify my position - I don't have a desire to live in a teepee and grow my own vegetables.  In fact, I don't know any environmentalists that do. Maybe you've had exposure to some radical folks who think that way, but that's not what I'm advocating.  I beleive that humankind needs to live in balance with the earth.   I don't expect that we wipe out our infrastructure and society and start over.  I believe that we have made bad choices and that we need to alter our ways in the future so that we don't create an inhospitable planet.  I'm talking about building green, using alternatives fuels, recycling, reducing consumption, etc.  I'm not sure how that was perceived by some as calling for mass suicide and wearing loin clothes. 
 
 
Angie Fura
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----- Original Message ----
From: Milroy Grosse <milroygrosse@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Angie Fura <tracetribute@xxxxxxxxx>; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] Why "Naturalists" are Doomed

UMMM...that pretty much was your whole post other than some business about how humans pastured cows and now there is no natural grazing or something. Nothing about balance.
 
 
Maybe you left a paragraph off by accident. 

Angie Fura <tracetribute@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Kat - please read my entire post.  The critical part is where I talk about balance.  If you focus on the one paragraph that you isolated below, you'll miss the my point. 
 
Angie Fura
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----- Original Message ----
From: k s swigart <katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:11:29 AM
Subject: [RC] Why "Naturalists" are Doomed

Angie Fura said:

> I think it stems from how I define "environment."
> In my opinion, its the natural state of the planet.
> Its not human centric where man has dominion
> over the earth and animals.  I view humankind's
> industrialization and development of the planet
> as not natural and therefore a burden to the planet.

It is statements like this that demonstrate why so many self-proclaimed
naturalists or environmentalists are doomed to frustration and failure.
Being human themselves, there is nothing they (or any other human for
that matter) can do that is "natural."  In this case, the only "natural"
solution would be the extinction of humans.

However, I have yet to hear a single environmentalists suggest this as
an alternative, despite the fact that it is the logical conclusion to be
drawn from the above (and oft) stated opinion.

I find this hilariously funny.

kat
Orange County, Calif.



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