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RE: [RC] How tree hugging hurts the environment - heidi

Likewise the deer and elk populations that were nearly nonexistent here 200 years ago (as documented by Lewis and Clark--the Shoshoni Indians here had to go over into Montana and risk the wrath of other tribes in order to find any big game to hunt) are now burgeoning--thanks mostly to the improvement of habitat that has come about through good grazing practices and good logging practices.
 
Heidi



There are still deer, antelope and elk grazing...alongside the cattle.  Our area is not native land for antelope and elk, but we have more deer than you can believe.  Around here, the native peoples burned the land so that it produced more of the vegetation deer prefer and so the deer were easier to hunt.  Burning also encouraged the growth of wild berries.
 
Barbara
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:26 PM
Subject: FW: [RC] How tree hugging hurts the environment

There were deer, antelope and elk grazing and browsing and Indians doing burns before they were all killed or driven off by the cattlemen.
 
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Mike Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical
707 887 2919; fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Angie Fura
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:44 AM
To: Marlene Moss; Ridecamp
Subject: Re: [RC] How tree hugging hurts the environment

My viewpoint is a little different - I guess that's no surprise by now.  I think it stems from how I define "environment."  In my opinion, its the natural state of the planet.  Its not human centric where man has dominion over the earth and animals.  I view humankind's industrialization and development of the planet as not natural and therefore a burden to the planet.  Without humans to alter the environment, cows would not be pastured and overgrowth would burn naturally on a regular basis (germinating seeds and creating rich soil etc).  Yes, nature always finds a way but I don't beleive that it should in some cases. 
 
BTW - if environmentalists are tree huggers, is there a term to describe those on the other side of the debate? 
 
Angie Fura
Trace Tribute 25/55
www.tracetribute.com


----- Original Message ----
From: Marlene Moss <Marlene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:27:32 PM
Subject: [RC] How tree hugging hurts the environment

My husband’s family lives in Steamboat Colorado and have lived there far longer than the hippy/tree huggers.  The tree huggers are trying to restrict the use of cattle on BLM land, trying to buy up land so that it can’t be used and to leave it “pristine”.  Well, anyone who knows Steamboat knows how fast and big things grow there.  So what’s happened is that the undergrowth is totally out of control and a single lightening strike could cause a fire that would be devastating to plant, animal and humans.  Naturally, fires are supposed to happen to clear out the undergrowth, but no one, not even the tree huggers, are going to vote to just allow the fires to burn.  So the cattle can actually play an important role in keeping the ove rall environment safe.  This is one of those topics that are not safe to bring up at the dinner table!!!
Marlene
 
Marlene Moss
Boarding/Training - www.LosPinos-CO.com
 


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