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Susan wrote:

> I can narrow the wording down.  I'm sure they'll try to get around it 
> but they'll still have to leave.  What then?  Go ahead and 
> protest...but you're gone.
>  
> When the rider keeps on arguing after RM has said "NO", then 
> it's harassment which is abuse.  RM can't walk away and if the rider 
> won't and keeps harassing the manager, that's abuse.  Cursing is 
> abuse.  Excessive arguing is abuse...and disrespectful.  (I agree with 
> your grandma.)  Disrespect doesn't have to be tolerated either.


Six months ago a fist fight broke out at a ride over an incident in ride 
camp concerning ride rules. The police was called to sort it out. I'm 
sure the incident didn't do anything to endear endurance riders to the 
local land manager. To my knowledge the AERC has done nothing. No one 
wanted to protest. Bottom line I just don't see the AERC organized or 
the rules structured to deal with sort or thing or the sort of thing 
that seems to be happening in the Central region without a formal 
protest. The rule on "... not being able to deny entry ..." is a pretty 
strong statement.  From what I can recall the few protest that have been 
filed when entry had been denied - the AERC has come down on the side of 
the person who was denied entry.

It seems that the only way to deal with this is for a RM to file a 
protest against these riders for a specific action. If it is a continual 
problem then a group of RM's could file a protest. As part of the 
protest if upheld - a suspension period could be part of the sanction. 
If the AERC will not uphold a protest filed by a RM or group of RM's - 
then they would porbably up hold a protest against an RM if entry were 
denied.

I'm not trying to minimize the behavior - however - IMO the way to 
address it is to file a protest and let the AERC sort it out. I'm sure 
there are enough people that would share the protest fee. It sure won't 
be solved by trying to craft a rule on ridecamp.

Truman

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