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Re: [RC] Training to 'top ten' - Shannon Chastain

Question here on the moving out going down hill. My horse loves to go fast down 
the 
hills and he is good at it. But, I was at a ride last month and Jim Baldwin was 
one of 
the vets he told us Newbies (I have done 4 LD's but always stay for the first 
time 
riders lecture from the vets) to go slow and walk the down the hills or we 
would be 
looking as some serious injuries. So I guess my question is can you condition 
your 
horse to go fast down then hills and reduce the possibilities of the injuries 
Jim was 
talking about?

This has been a issue for me since I started I competiting. My main riding 
buddy walks 
down all hills when conditioning and at comptitions. Then I was riding with a 
different friend at a ride and she told me to go fast down the hills, I was 
confused, 
still am???
Shannon and Drinks R Served
Missouri




On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:12:39 -0700, Joe Long wrote
rides2far@xxxxxxxx wrote:
'To top ten - you train at top ten speeds'

I totally disagree. For my horses to top 10 I trained consistantly but
conservatively most of the time, then added high heart rates on hills.
I've never ridden with anyone who trained "top 10 speeds" consistantly.
If I did it my horses would all be lame before I ever got to a ride. 
I've had a win & BC on one horse, and a win/high vet score on another, on
both I was very careful to find somewhere with good footing for our speed
work and we did do some, but never headed out on a 12 mile trail with
tricky footing and let it rip. That's a chance I'd only take on race day.

Angie

Sorry, Angie, but I believe "To Top ten, you train at Top Ten speeds" is 
good advice.  My bedrock principle of training is, never ask your horse 
to do on a ride what you have not done in training.

Now, training for Top Ten or First Place is only done after the horse 
has a solid foundation, including a couple of years of endurance rides 
at mid-pack or slower pace.  But once at that level, I condition at 
speeds at least as fast, or faster, as the speed at which I expect to 
compete.  That includes difficult terrain and downhill.

IMO horses are more likely to be lamed by being competed at higher 
speeds than the speed they trained at, than by proper conditioning.  If 
you gradually increase your speed over hard or rocky terrain at home, 
then the horse will be able to handle it on the ride.

There have been times I've been out riding with another endurance rider 
(training ride) and come to a downhill, and they've said "I'm going to 
walk down the hill, I'm saving his legs for the rides."  And I've said 
"I'm sorry, but I need to condition for downhill, so I have to go on" 
and I've moved on ahead at competition speed.

BTW, I've never had a career-ending lameness (or any career-ending 
injury) with any horse that I've brought along in endurance.

-- 
Joe Long
jlong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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