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RE: [RC] re: 100s discussion - David LeBlancThanks - for some reason, Cindy's original reply didn't come through to my mailbox. To answer her question, WHY (btw, all caps means shouting, and is generally considered rude) would my horse need so much time off? My personal rule of thumb is that the horse gets 1 week off from competition per 25 miles of competition. So we could do back to back LDs and that's OK, two weeks between 50's, 3 weeks after a 75, and give them a month after a 100. The thumb rule breaks down on multidays, so it isn't perfect. This is based on observing what seems to work for people with lots of miles and very high completion rates, and some input from some very good ride vets - Mike Foss had a formula that worked out about the same, except he added more time if you went fast, which is reasonable. I also wouldn't tend to recommend doing a 50 every 2 weeks all season. Other people are welcome to take a different approach - between them and their horse. Lots of people do lots of things, but they aren't me, and they're not riding my horse. For example, looking at Cindy's record for the last 5-6 years, she tends to follow that rule with the exception of multidays and she apparently gives 3 weeks after a 100. It's seemed to work out well - she's completed 41 rides in 49 attempts since 1997, which is pretty good considering there's 8 100's (4 for 8) during that period. Though one disturbing trend is that when a 100 fairly closely follows something else, seems like that's where she gets the pulls - but then there's not enough of these to come to a conclusion. Could be luck. So why would it be inconvenient to take that much time off? For example, the Oregon 100 is the week before Owyhee. If I did Oregon 100, I'd be crewing all week at Owyhee. I'd rather see if I can ride 4 days (did 3 last year) at Owyhee, which is a pretty big challenge, too. My wife rides too, and she's on a new horse this year so they're doing LD and she likes to go to a lot of rides. A 100 just hasn't fit into the schedule this year. Maybe it will next year. One thing I'd add is that while I'm making the decisions about what I do with my horse, I also do so with input from vets - we're fortunate to have a world-class endurance vet as our local vet, and I take his advice very seriously, as well as paying a lot of attention to people like Mike Foss and the other great vets we're lucky to have in the NW region. I'm also mystified as to how this thread turned into a LD vs. endurance naming argument. I don't even think I mentioned LD in my original post. I think I'll stir that pot on a different day, except to say that I'm very much in agreement with Steph. I think I'll go back to lurking now... -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kristen A Fisher Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:47 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] re: 100s discussion What I want to know is, when someone says their horse doesn't like 100s, or isn't ready for 100s, or needs rest after 100 - so many people jump in and tell them they are wrong. The only person that knows that horse and is qualified to make a determination on what the horse can/can't/should/shouldn't do is its owner/rider. SO WHAT about the way you ride your horse - other people don't want to ride their horses that way. Stop arguing with them about it. Kristen-----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Collins Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:29 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] re: 100s discussion I have to get some clarification here... First, David LeBlanc said: "I only have the one horse for myself - he'd need a lot oftime offafter a 100, and I'd rather do a couple of 50's." WHY??? Why would your horse need so much time off that itwould crampyour style, David? I've done three 100 milers in a twomonth period.Lots of other people have done a 50 miler within a fewweeks of a 100miler, then another 50 the next month. I don't understand?=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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