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[RC] Re-Elevate, Re-evaluate - Ridecamp GuestPlease Reply to: Howard Bramhall howard9732@xxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== Why not do it? If the members of AERC are worried about losing the 100, why not allow anyone to enter the 100, finish only 25, 50 or 75 and get credit for those miles (completion only). If we are so worried about losing the 100 miler sport within AERC, wouldn't this be a fantastic idea to bring it back? How many times have you seen the start of a 100 with less than ten riders? Nobody gets credit for points and all that cause there were not enough riders who started the ride for it to count. That would bug me and cause consideration to enter a crowded 50 miler, where I would get the points and credit, instead. I've been to rides where managmene has begged other riders to step up (Cowboy Ed always comes through) so that they could meet their minimum quota for the ride to count. How many rides that used to have 100's no longer do, due to lack of participation? If we want to bring back the 100s we might want to consider this type of change to make it happen. What on earth are we so afraid of losing here? The lack of 100 milers has deteriorated to the point where some sort of change in attracting more of them is necessary. This just might have some merit if folks could get off their high horse and realize that things do not have to always remain the way they "were" for us to be able to define what is endurance and who its true members are. Kat says only 100 milers are true endurance riders (even though the AERC definition differs). OThers say we gotta continue chewing nails until all our teeth fall out to be tough enough to meet their definition of what an endurance rider is. If a group is unwilling to ever make changes, the times will just go and pass us all by. We will dry up and wither on the vine. This really is not watering down the sport at all. It's not such a bad idea. Make the start of the 100, at your local ride, look like the start of the Biltmore 100 in May. More riders than you can count. And, no offense to Buddy, I say the Ride Manager keeps all of the entry fee for the distance; no refunds because you didn't finish every mile. This way, you pay to enter the 100 and even if your intention is to only go as far as your horse is able to do so safely and remain healthy, you get the credit for the miles you completed, and the manager keeps the change. If you want to be able to tell others you entered a 100 miler, you pay the price for it. cya, Howard (how bout them Steelers?) I see difference between ' elevator concept' and what Steph was saying as .. in points, and why ?? so few elevate. .. why should I enter a 50 - say, and ride well, finish with points in a division. * This is rhetorical.* And 'throw it all aside', points,etc. to elevate to another mileage to get mileage completion only.??... With I what stated above, the 'glory' is only in finishing the 100. With that - I will say I never rode for 'points', I rode primarily for 'fun'; we just did what we could that day, and I did a couple 100s, I may or may not do any again, but... but I like the concept of 'mileage only , or go for ' the 100 '. JMO Stephanie M =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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