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Re: [RC] Gotta Question For Ya?? - Jody Rogers-Buttram

Hey Dawn,   Have to jump in on this one.  I believe I am the SE Equipak Queen.  I've used the black (equibuild) and the soft (clear looking) equi-pack.   Both with great success.  To me, the clear held up as well in the rocks as the black.  I ALWAYS use the mesh and have NEVER lost any of it.  I have done 3 day rides (155 miles) and one day 100's with the stuff.  Ridden in rocky, rocky places, muddy places, you name it.  And it will be going to the OD 100 in a few weeks with me.    I understand the need to have the hoof really dry, but to tell you the truth, I don't bother with it anymore.  I did at first.  And I think that it makes a big difference with the mesh or not.  If not using the mesh, you HAVE to have the hoof dry.  If not, and applied properly, it WILL stay in.  I love it because you don't have the "wiggle" on the nails that you get with pads, therefore  less stress on the hoofwall.  Plus, I think that pads are more likely to get "sucked off" in mud than the packing. 
Just my two cents worth.  :))
Jody and the girls (Aries and Rose)  OD Bound !!!!!!!

rdcarrie@xxxxxxx wrote:
The Equibuild is harder material...the rocks don't chew it up the way they do the equipack.  If you compare the two, the e-pack is softer, more squishy and rubbery.  The e-build is still rubbery, but *much* stiffer and firmer.  Rocks don't gouge pieces out of it the way they do the e-pack.
We will use the mesh with the e-build if we re-shoe within a week or two before a rocky ride.  If shoes are at least 2 weeks old, we don't worry about the mesh.  The reason is, with a couple weeks of hoof growth after shoeing, there's a tiny bit of a lip under the inner edge of the shoe...you clean the hoof out REALLY well, includng under this lip, put the e-build in, and this lip helps hold it in.  I've done 50s like this and not lost it out of any of the 4 feet.  But if you re-shoe right before a ride, do the mesh.
Also, make sure the hoof is very clean, and very DRY before putting the e-build in.  If it's been rainy/muddy, stall your horse overnight in shavings before the farrier comes, to give the feet time to dry out.  Damp hooves won't let the stuff adhere, and you risk losing it.
Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: roxanne kopp <koppj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RDCARRIE@xxxxxxx
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 23 May 2006 07:03:19 -0400
Subject: Re: [RC] Gotta Question For Ya??

I would like to hear more about the Equibuild.  My farrer and I have been using the Equipack when I want to pad for rocky rides.  But, on two occassions the Equipack has come out during a loop.  Shoe stays on but pad material is gone - the farrier does use the mesh between the hoof and shoe to help keep the Equipack in.  Why do you think the Equibuild stays in better?  Are you using the mesh with the Equibuild?  Any and all suggestions I could pass along to my farrier would be appreciated. 
Roxanne in Kentucky
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] Gotta Question For Ya??

There are products made especially for this.  I know one is called Equi-build, because that's what we use for rocky rides.  It's a pour-in pad material, and you can pull it out after the ride (or leave it in if you want).  You get it from farrier supply places.  Works great.  The Equi-build is black and works better for rocks.  The other kind is clear (I think it's called Equi-pack) and is softer and more rubbery; it tends to get eaten out by rocks.

Dawn Carrie

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