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RE: [SPAM] [RC] Electrolytes/Ulcers - heidi

Thank you Joane, for the links to Gayle Ecker's and Susan 
Garlinghouse's sites.  At last, the results of bona fide studies 
rather than anecdotal reports.

Gayle Ecker's numbers are the ones I use in "doing the math" as Truman
suggests--but in order for them to have any meaning, you also have to
look at NRC charts (or better yet, analyses of your actual feedstuffs)
and calculate the daily intake of the same e-lytes.  Then realize that
the horse packs around about 2 days' worth.  That is the "math" that
really puts all this in perspective.

I attended the seminar at the San Antonio convention reporting the 
results of a test of the effects of electrolyte administration on 
gastric mucosa. (did not take notes, so this is from occasionally 
faulty memory)  Point 1: in both groups, treated and untreated, 
ulcers were present at scoping, before any electrolyte administration 
in about 50% of each group, a research herd at the vet school.  Point 
2: after treatment, the percentage and severity of gastric mucosa 
ulceration was increased in the electrolyted group.  Point 3: the 
research vet did not recommend against electrolyte protocols, since 
there are demonstrated benefits of doing so.  We don't know the 
significance of this gastric mucosa ulceration (remember 50% of both 
groups exhibited it);

Uh, no, 50% exhibited it pre-testing and there was a statistically
significant increase in the ulceration in the e-lyted group.

we don't know whether it's transient or 
progressive.  We do know that we can irritate the gastric mucosa with 
electrolytes and must keep that in mind when we devise our strategies 
for our ponies.  The final point was that this small, I thought well 
done study was EXPENSIVE.  So the little bits of objective knowledge 
that we get should be greatly appreciated.  

Indeed, good research is expensive.  

Bottom line here is that yes, e-lytes directly administered into the
stomach DO cause more ulceration.  Which does at least address our
current protocols, and indicate that at very least, if one MUST give
them, they should be in food.

Sorry I missed that presentation at convention.

Heidi


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