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Oh, yes!  I DO use the AERC insurance policy.  In our case, the state parks 
and several other landowners wouldn't allow us to pass through their 
property without certificates of insurance.  It's nice to know that the 
liability releases hold up in court, but the landowners want further 
protection.  The best part of endurance riders' conduct is that I have heard 
of only one or two lawsuits in all the 36 years I've been involved with the 
sport. One was at Tevis, when two riders started out from Squaw Valley, took 
the wrong route, and were unhorsed when they rode under a low ski-lift 
cable.  They did not follow instructions as to the correct route, and they 
did not honor the liability release.

Barbara

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dabney Finch" <dabneyesq@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx>; "k s swigart" 
<katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] California Statute


> Barbara wrote:
>
> > And so ride managers, by virtue of charging entry fees, are at risk if 
> > the ride is held on, or passes through, their property?
> > And ride managers are liable, even if the ride is held on someone else's 
> > property, government property, etc?
> > Do I understand this correctly?
>
> Dabney responds:
>
> All that means is that when RMs charge for riders to ride on their own 
> land, they are not protected by this particular statute.  However, other 
> landowners are (unless they're charging).  RMs are protected by the 
> liability release we riders all sign (or should be!) when we enter the 
> ride.
>
> And  these liability releases DO "hold up in court."  They have been 
> tested. They work.  Do just be sure to use them, and I believe insurance 
> is also available through AERC?  (Belt and suspenders--a good idea.)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Dabney Finch" <dabneyesq@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "k s swigart" 
> <katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [RC] California Statute
>
>
> > Barbara
> >
> >
> > From: "Dabney Finch" <dabneyesq@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "k s swigart" <katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [RC] California Statute
> >
> >
> > > Kat wrote me about the CA statute:
> > >
> > > > It is my understanding that this protects landowners even if the 
> > > > parties
> > > > are not tresspassing, but also those who have been given permission, 
> > > > and
> > > > that it is only when the land owner charges money for the use of his
> > > > property where the statute no longer applies.
> > > >
> > > > Have I misunderstood?
> > >
> > > Dabney's response:
> > >
> > > No, you understand the statute perfectly.  Applies to "invitees" as 
> > > well. Only exception is where landowner is charging money.  Thank you 
> > > for the clarification Kat!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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