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As people doing our best with a veterinary emergency, we've been  
doing our best to understand in the absence of any help whatsoever  
from our vets. So far as I know, Morad is the first person to have  
pulled a horse through this. Hopefully we can find out more. We'll  
try to do a blood test at a lab where the doctor in charge is  
sympathetic to the fact that we have no veterinary labs here.

When he finally got a vet to answer his call last night, the "vet"  
only came out to see us because he heard that the horse was stable  
and he wanted to see what Morad had done. He said that he had six  
horses down with it at the Gezira Club, a jumping/dressage/polo place  
downtown.

Maryanne

On Oct 25, 2005, at 3:39 AM, Nancy wrote:

> As an old ICU nurse I would say something is attacking the red  
> blood cells
> and or muscle tissue.  The dark red urine is the tip off--the horse is
> passing large amounts of red cells and or muscle tissue.  The blue  
> gums is
> an sign of lack of oxygen.  The red blood cells carry the oxygen to  
> the
> tissue-if large amounts of red blood cells are damaged you do not have
> enough red cells to deliver the needed oxygen to the tissues. In  
> humans you
> see this in toxic poisons, massive crush injuries and burns.  With  
> this type
> of massive cell damage the body cleans up and passes the dead cells  
> out via
> the kidney.  If you do not have enough fluid in the body to flush  
> out the
> damaged cells, the kidney is literally plugged with the damaged
> cells/tissue.  The treatment is lots of fluids to flush the  
> particles out
> and thus avoid kidney damage. This is a oversimplification of the  
> human
> model, have no idea how it translates to equines.  I have not  
> worked in the
> ICU in 10 years (thank goodness!), and I assume they have new  
> medications
> and other treatments for this.  What a nightmare, my prayers are  
> with you
> and I hope they figure out what is causing this.
> Nancy Reed
> Lazy J Ranch
> Elfin Forest, CA
>
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> From:
> Maryanne Gabbani <msgabbani@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [RC]   Mystery virus in horses in Egypt
>
>
> We've been having a series of sick and dying horses in Cairo and
> having just managed to get a stallion through this in one piece, we
> want to share the symptoms, our theories about what is happening and
> how we succeeded in having a horse survive....Symptoms: The onset  
> looks like
> a colic. No fever at all. The eyelid
> is dark red and the gums have blue streaks. The back is stiff and  
> the  =
>
> area over the kidney is held high, similar to a horse with excess
> gas. At this point if manure is passed, it is dry with no mucus. It
> looks like a light colic, but the horses who have presented these
> symptoms then proceed to shivering, collapsing and dehydration  
> within  =
> 24 hours. By this time they have diarrhea and dark reddish urine.


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