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Re: [RC] CTRs a thumbs down....I think - Carolyn BurgessSara was scribing at an ECTRA ride, I rode that same ride and got to listen to her crab, crab, crab about the vetting (Sara knows I love her so I can say this about her :-), the nit picking and the time necessary to vet both in and out. But what she doesn't know is that ECTRA only scores the horse, not the rider! From what I understand some organization score like a judged pleasure ride, so equitation, tack, and rider are also part of the scoring. Carolyn Burgess --- Chris Paus <paus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Where are you geographically, Sarah. Was this a NATRC ride? There are lots of varieties of CTR, depending on the sanctioning organization. Some are not very picky at all! chris Brian & Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxxx> wrote: OK. Volunteered for my first CTR this weekend. I had volunteered at two endurance rides already. I'm a newbie that hasn't competed yet and have found that scribing has been a VERY educational experience for me! Well, the ride manager, judge, vet, other volunteers, and riders were all FANTASTIC!!!! A super nice group of people that I was glad to get a chance to meet! But.......... I don't think CTRs are for me. The majority of posts I received to a previous inquiry about CTRs Verse Endurance LD seemed to favor me doing CTRs to start. Well, no thank you!!! I mean no offense when I say that I just don't think CTRs are for me. I show already and have enough nit picking, subjectivity, thank you very much! LOL It was a LOOOOOOOOOONG day! It seemed to take forever to go over all of the little cuts, bumps, no hair patches, etc!!! My hand started to cramp at one point! I had so many bump marks on one sheet that the horse (morgan) looked like an Appaloosa when I was done!!! Plus, not to mention ALL of the trot outs with circles. Gees!!! A very interesting thing was noted too. Almost 98% of the Arabians had small (miniscule) heat bumps while the cold blooded, thicker skinned breeds were clean. Well, all the morgan, draft cross, appaloosa types just shone in the final exam due to their thicker skin!! Most of the top horses were not Arabians and the winner was a draft cross! I saw a lot of very thick horses (muscular) with very trappy knee action just clean up!! I am thinking that they might have a hard time competing over more ground and at a faster pace. But, who knows! The horses that were dull to start and trotted crappy with their ears pinned back the whole time placed well too because they were still dull, trotting crappy, and with their ears pinned back at the end too!! Judging comment...No change!!!!!! *grin* Now, after having volunteered at both, I think I am definitely leaning toward Endurance!! As I said, I get enough subjectivity and nit picking with showing! Everyone says that I will learn good horsemanship by doing CTRs. Well, guess what!! I have good horsemanship now (thanks 4-H!!) so that argument is lame!!! I don't need to learn good horsemanship! I think I'm ok there!!! Believe it or not but people can acquire good horsemanship through other ways than riding CTRs (gasp)!!!!!! *grin* Plus, as I found out, if you ride a barefoot but booted horse (which I do) only one kind of boots are allowed.....easyboots without gaiters. Bummer. Those fall off so I use epics. Now what?? I just found the whole process so tedious that I was exhausted at the end of the day and I wasn't even riding!! Can you say Caffeine, please!!! :-) I am in know way knocking the people that do CTRs. I think to each their own. I know that I am definitely leaning toward endurance. The riders and horses all seemed happy. Everyone had a great time! However, personally, I think I'll take endurance anyday! Happy riding, Sara =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship. Louisa May Alcott Chris Paus BayRab Acres http://pages.prodigy.net/paus Lake Region SWA http://lakeregionswa.fws1.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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