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RE: [RC] Being the Herd Leader - Marv Walker


If the "be the herd leader" concept helps you to establish a working
relationship with your horse, then by all means use it.  But if it
doesn't, that's okay....because it is a bullshit concept, and I
guarantee you, no matter how you may be decieving yourself, your horse
does not think of you as another horse....and a good thing too.  I have
seen the way that horses treat each other, and I want no part of that
kind of a relationship. :)

Not being contentious here...


How do you know that horses don't see you as a horse?

I have seen horses treat each other in totally different
ways.  True, I don't want to be treated like some treat
other horses but I have no objection to being treated
like some horses treat other horses.

But I insist that they treat me as a herd leader and I
ACT like herd leader acts.  You do not get in the leader's
space unless it is allowed, you don't threaten, bite or
kick the herd leader.

Set me down in the middle of a herd of strange horses
and they very quickly will recognize that I am a leader
and respond accordingly.  I demonstrate this time and
time again in my videos and events.  Horses are genetically
preprogrammed to react in a set manner to horse leader-
ship actions.

I totally disagree. IMHO, it is NOT bullshit...it's a very important
concept, and if you ignore it, you are missing something very important in
the relationship between human and horse...something it took me years to
understand and appreciate. I have worked with horses for over 50 years...my
first pony-horse at age 8, working at NC State Agricultural barns, boarding
barns, through many disciplines and many horses.  Like most, I started off
stupid...it's a wonder I didn't die. Through observation, working with a lot
of different types and breeds of horses (and owners), and studying the
methods and techniques of natural horsemanship clinicians, I learned a lot,
discarded the things that didn't work for me, and adopted the things that
did. It's an unusual day that goes by when I don't learn something new.
Arabians were a revelation to me...their intelligence, gentle dispositions,
and willingness to please...they have taught me a lot.

What he said.


Horses will never learn "human"...you must learn "horse"...and they DO treat
you as another horse...how strongly that occurs depends on how much time you
spend with a specific horse/herd. It's more obvious in smaller herds. Horses
are strongly empathic and communicate in ways we still struggle to
comprehend. They respect strength, and respond to pressure when it is
applied in ways they understand.  Weakness and timidity make them fearful.
You teach by making it easy to do the right thing and difficult to do the
wrong thing...they same way a lead mare teaches.  For example a mischievous
youngling will be chased out of the herd to live by himself on the
perimeter. To be part of the "herd" he must learn the rules...enforced by
the HERD LEADER.

I could go on...but enough said. You go ahead and be a "human" to your
horses if you like. I prefer my horses to treat me as a HORSE herd leader,
not a stupid human with whom they can't communicate in their own language.

The STARTING point of my training is to teach my horse that "I will demand
the same respect from you that you give to any herd leader. You will not
kick me, bite me, invade my space or show any disrespect in my presence".

Marv "Wurks fo mee." Walker



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