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RE: [RC] any sugestions?? - Linda Cowles

Hi folks,

Vicki copied the email I sent to her privately to RideCamp. 

I apologize for involving RideCamp in this;  Vicki volunteered to send a sample 
of her microfleece tights (I expected a small parcel) and she shipped what she 
told me later was $800 worth of merchandise in two boxes that arrived Christmas 
week. She didn't send the microfleece tights I'd inquired about; she sent an 
assortment of things, mostly off-season stuff.

She had said I could purchase, consign or return what she sent.  Her shipment 
cost her a lot to ship (the second box alone cost at least $29 to send), I let 
her know that I couldn't price it to sell at a profit, and she had said 
consigning it was okay so I tried consigning it with no markup to save her the 
return postage. None of it sold. 

My  laptop died over the Christmas holidays, so I didn't get her 1/11 emailed 
request to return her merchandise immediately  I let her know I'd gather it up, 
pack it and ship it back,  and offered to use her card number to ship it back 
but she declined.  I've suggested that she have UPS pick it up, since that is 
easy for both of us. I run a business and by the time I get to town it's long 
after the post office has closed.  

Life is full of lessons; I guess I needed to learn this one. 


Linda Cowles
Horse 'N Hound
New, Used & Consigned
Tack & Stable Supplies
9155 N. State Street #13
Redwood Valley CA 95470
phone  707-485-0347
fax  707-485-0453
Kadence@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Kadence@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 



-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Vicki Austin
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:20 AM
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] any sugestions??


 DearRide Campers,  I am so sorry this had to get in
to ride camp.  I made an honest inquiry for a problem
that I was trying to keep private between Linda and
me,  I did't mention names or places or give much of
any information.


Linda, Since you saw fit to involve our good friends
on ride camp I must reply.   I did look over our
original emails and I don't see where you got the idea
I had GIVEN you the stuff.   I sent it to you because
you asked me to.  No you did not order it, but asked
to look.  Don't know how you can look unless it is
sent to you.   I said I would send it free of charge
(you didn't have to pay shipping) and that you could
keep an item that you liked if you saw something that
you personally liked (as a thanks for looking gift) If
you took that as "I don't want it back" than why did
you promise to  "buy , sell or send it back"??  I sent
the first box of (summer stuff) as I saw that you were
in California and when you said you were interested in
winter stuff as well I sent stuff for that as well. 
All in good faith!!    

Not quite true the things you have said. No I didn't
care if you consigned them (isn't that part of your
business?)   or  sold them at the price I had on them
and charged me the consignment fee (isn't that also
what you said you did for business?)   How do you get
out of that , that I don't want them back??

Return at your own convienance???   Do you really not
go into town only about every six weeks or so??  I
think maybe not.  And it is no cost to you, since I
told you  I would pay to have  returned to me the
things you didn't want.



Linda Cowles <kadence@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You have VERY unusual business ethics! Would you
like me to send you the
copy of the email where you state that you don't
care if these items are
sold or consigned, that they have been around for a
while and if I can't
sell them than I can "keep them for myself or return
them at my
convenience"? 

Vicki, I didn't "order" any of this; I was
interested in micro fleece
tights, let you know that and you sent me samples of
everything but micro
fleece. Rather than sending a "sample", you shipped
two large boxes of
merchandise that I couldn't sell.

Why do you want to blow this out of proportion this
way and take it public
to RideCamp? I'll take pictures of this "quality
merchandise".

My expectation of someone who claims to have a
business that's operated for
30+ years was to manage this sort of thing
PROFESSIONALLY. I've gotten
samples before, and it's been one or two items with
the return postage
guaranteed. 

Please send UPS out for a pick up.


Linda Cowles
Horse 'N Hound
New, Used & Consigned
Tack & Stable Supplies
9155 N. State Street #13
Redwood Valley CA 95470
phone 707-485-0347
fax     707-485-0453
Kadence@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Vicki Austin
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:56 AM
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RC] any sugestions??

Hey ridecampers,  some of you sew for a living (like
me).  I ahve come
across a situation that I have never
have before.   What would you do in this situation??

I would appreciate any suggestions as I am out of
ideas.

First let me begin by saying I send good selections
of my Vicki's Handmades
all over the country and Canada (at their request of
course) to tack shops
and to private people to view and buy if they want 
with the understanding
that they send anything back they do not want for
whatever reason. (I
usually also tell them if there is something they
personally like they may
keep it as a "thank you for looking" gift.  Even
when someone orders
something specifically I tell them if they are not
happy with it to send it
back and I will either change it or send their money
back ,whichever they
prefer. I can always put it on the shelf.  I have
done this for 30+ years
with no problems.

With out any names of course I will tell you what
has happened.

The week before Christmas I came in contact with a
"tack shop" person who
wanted to see my handmade stuff saying that they
like to support people who
hand make clothing for horses and people.  I sent
them summer and winter
selections, amounting to approximately $800. from
the shelf of my work
studio.  I waited a couple of weeks (I was busy with
family at xmas time)
and then contacted the tack shop wondering if my
stuff even got there (I
insure all that I send out so if it gets lost I am
not out many $).  I had
to contact twice before they even answered back to
which they said they
weren't able to use any of what I sent and
would send it back. I have yet to get it back!!!!  
I
have contacted them over and over again and even
said I would PAY to have it
shipped back to me (which I have never had to do
before)  I have waited
almost six weeks and have customers who had seen
some of the items when they
visited my studio before but waited till first of
Jan to tell me they wanted
them and are waiting for them to be sent back. Since
it was supposed to be
back "any day" I told them that instead of saying
"sorry it has been sold"
They don't want a substitute, only  those particular
items.

What would you do????  Thanks in advance!!!   Vicki



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