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Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] WEIGHT DIVISIONS - Jon . LindermanWeight limits are set by the handicapper. Sometimes large weight differentials are assigned to horses favored to win. I know there is some convention about pounds of weight and increased work or decreased stride length at a gallop that I have heard (though I can't remember the specifics of this rule of thumb!) & I this is the basis for a favorite carrying as much as 130 some odd pounds, while another horse may carry as little as 109. It seems logical in flat track racing to weigh the sum total of what the horse carries, including saddle and jockey, particularly with $ on the line for all involved. Jon K. Linderman, Ph.D., FACSM Assistant Professor of Health and Sport Science University of Dayton 300 College Park Dayton, OH 45469-1210 Voice:(937) 229-4207 FAX: (937) 229-4244 http://homepages.udayton.edu/~lindermj/ "terry banister" <terrybanister@hotmai To: flash_cupid@xxxxxxxxx, ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx l.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] WEIGHT DIVISIONS ridecamp-owner@xxxxxx durance.net 11/02/2004 12:50 PM Yes, the flat-track jockeys all weigh within a couple of pounds of each other, and the saddles are nearly the same, probably only varying by ounces in weight. So WHY do they weigh them together? I was not "wanting" anything, other than to know the reason why they do it. Terry "May the Horse be with you" ----Original Message Follows---- From: DaNel Resha <flash_cupid@xxxxxxxxx> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] WEIGHT DIVISIONS Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 06:30:29 -0800 (PST) And in these races each and every rider has the same amount of weight for the ride. And the same type of saddle. Are you wanting there to be one type of saddle for these events? Are you wanting each division to weigh the same? Then some people will have to add extra weight to their saddles to meet the weight of the heavest rider in their division. I am going to go back to weigh the rider. That will determine the division the rider will ride in. They can then choose the tack and extras that they want to carry on the ride. DaNel Resha www.Darswinkles-Delights.com terry banister <terrybanister@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Flat-track ractracks weigh the jockey AND the saddle . . . Terry "May the Horse be with you" ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Rae Callaway" <tallcarabians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "DaNel Resha" <flash_cupid@xxxxxxxxx>,"Susan, Princess of Pink" <glenn218@xxxxxxxxx>,<jlong@xxxxxxxx>,<ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] WEIGHT DIVISIONS Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:01:58 -0600 But the saddle weight DOES matter, regardless of whether someone chooses a heavy saddle, light saddle or no saddle - the horse is still carrying the weight. What are we judging here - the what the horse is carrying or how fat or thin the rider is? I feel it's what the horse is carrying that's important because he's (she's) the one that's lugging everything, saddle, bottles, hardware store & rider, over the course, so it's ALL that weight that wears on the horse, not just the rider's weight. Rae Tall C Arabians - Central Region ----- Original Message ----- From: DaNel Resha To: Susan, Princess of Pink ; jlong@xxxxxxxx ; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [RC] WEIGHT DIVISIONS After reading many peoples comments. I feel just weigh the rider and the rider's clothing. Don't worry about saddles since so many people have different tastes in Saddles. Don't weigh water or food since they will be used during the ride. Do weigh the extra items that people choose to carry. It is their option to carry those items. Riders have to ride the horse so weigh the rider only. If someone chose to do a ride bareback it is there option and there would be no saddle to weigh. DaNel Resha www.Darswinkles-Delights.com "Susan, Princess of Pink" <glenn218@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I'd rather keep the weight divisons the way they are. That way, more of us can be competitive and get our little trinkets. Perhaps we should weight just the person and clothes (please wipe the mud off your shoes!) and adjust the weight parameter accordingly. Joe Long <jlong@xxxxxxxx> wrote: One more item: I haven't seen much comment about my proposal to reduce the number of weight divisions from four to three (or even two). How about it? If we get some discussion going we can ask the Board to put it on the agenda for the Convention meeting, and maybe get it done for the 2006 season. Susan [Young], The Princess of Pink Semper Obliquo (Always aside) Glenndale Grace Farm, Ft Gibson, Oklahoma U.S.A. "Ride on! Rough-shod if need be, smooth-shod if that will do, but ride on! Ride on over all obstacles, and win the race!" - Charles Dickens (1812-1870) DaNel Resha Darswinkle's Delights www.darswinkles-delights.com for gift giving needs www.my.tupperware.com/Darswinkle for tupperware ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! 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