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Re: [RC] Oxygenated Blood Flow, Temperature Differentials, Breatheability - Barbara McCraryThis is all very scientific and completely over the head of us not-so-scientific people; all I know is that it is a great saddle pad, my horse is very comfortable with it, it was easy to wash the cover and replace the inserts (had no trouble at all, despite having heard that others did have trouble. And, Richard, I didn't even have to put the inserts into the refrigerator for 10 seconds.) I don't understand the scientific reason for the cooling aspect of the pad; I just know that I have ridden two 50-milers with it, both in warm to hot circumstances, and my horse arrived at vet checks with pulse already at criteria and his back not sore in any way. I did not walk the whole way, either; we trotted quite vigorously most of the time. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Libby & Quentin Llop DVM" <qhll@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Ridecamp Guest" <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:52 AM Subject: RE: [RC] Oxygenated Blood Flow, Temperature Differentials, Breatheability Dear Friends: I was asked by Richard Sacks of Equipedic, by phone, & others by e-mail to evaluate the 'science' behind the Equipedic pads. First let me say that I have not seen the pad. My statements are purely an evaluation of the possible validity of the physics of the mechanism that is offered by Equipedic, Mr. Sacks' verbal description, and Holofiber & Equipedic on their websites. A. The beads: Mr. Sacks described beads that liquefy from the horse's heat and resolidify from cooling from the top of the pad as providing a cooling advantage to the pad. I found this argument totally without merit, as the flux of heat thru the pad must be a net of zero, i.e. the heat coming in from the horse must pass out somewhere else. The presence of beads in solid, semi liquid or transitional form is irrelevant to that. B. Holofiber: The 'scientific' tests of the fiber are currently unpublished; my comments refer to the statements made on the news & media page of holofiber's website, http://www.holofiber.com/news_news0604MTI.asp. 1) It is claimed that incident light is important for the functioning of the fiber. It is immediately apparent that the this is not a factor in a saddle pad. (A photo of a golfer wearing a T-shirt is shown.) 2) It is claimed that energies from the body and the outside light are transformed by the fibers into a wavelength that is used in the Krebs cycle to create biochemical energy. (The would be converting animals to plants, because it is claiming photosynthesis.) As the action of the Krebs cycle uses oxygen, I find it inconsistent that it is claimed that the above mechanism promotes the 'oxygenation' of the dermis. 3)The term 'oxygenation' I have not seen defined. Once it is defined, an explanation needs to be given how it is important to the functionality of the saddle pad. C. Conforpedic: The claim that the material both fills in the voids between saddle and horse and moves with the horse, as the horse strides, is contradicted by the photo on Equipedic's website: http://www.equipedic.com/Confor-Pedic.htm, which shows an hand lifted off the material and the imprint remaining. The shape of an horse's back changes dramatically in the time frame of under one second. The visco elastic polymer clearly has too slow a response curve to do that. Truman's comments about experiments testifying to the coolness of the Supracor are consistent with our experience. The best testing offered by a manufacturer that I have seen is on the First Thought Equine (FLAIR) website, http://www.flair.uk.com/flair/flair%20frame.htm. There they showed the results of continuous pressure monitoring on the flat at different speeds and over fences. We have to be very careful in interpreting results from human experiments. Quentin -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ridecamp Guest Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:54 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] Oxygenated Blood Flow, Temeprature Differentials, Breatheability Please Reply to: Richard Sacks rsacks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== To Jonnie Jewell, the Lop's and others. I am the President of Equipedic and the designer of the pad. The studies on oxygenated blood flow were performed By Dr. Lawrence Lavery (when he was at Chicago Loyola Medical) on subjects who had vascular impairment and by Texas A&M on general popluation subjects. The results indicated a 8-12.5% increase in oxygenated blood flow for those who had vascular impairment vs. control and 10.5 to 29.97% for general population vs. control on. This study was done on behalf of the manufacturer, Hologenixs, LLC (www.holofiber.com). The temperature differentials were tested by the US military and the the manufacturers. The base fiber(phase change material)for temperature modulation is used in bullete proof vests, helmets, clothing and gloves in military and law enforcement applications. The testing was performed in a heat chamber at 95 degrees and 95% humidity using thermocouplers. The results showed as much as 13 degree differental for helmets and as much as 7 degrees for vests when compared to control. 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