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Re: [RC] [RC] tom ivers - Howard Bramhall

Actually, Lynne, Tom did pay up on that bet he made reference Bill Proctor. I'm not sure if Tom admitted publicly that he was wrong there, but, he did pay up on his bet.

I gotta admit I miss ole Tom. He kept things lively when he was on Ridecamp. I'd love to see him back, not for the science but for the pure entertainment value.

cya,
Howard


----Original Message Follows----
From: Lynne Glazer <anyone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: heidi <ribbitttreefrog@xxxxxxxxx>
CC: jlong@xxxxxxxx, Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Lif Strand <lif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] tom ivers
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:00:27 -0700

That is simply not true, Heidi. For instance he disdains equine chiropractic despite reams of proof of efficacy. Yet he does accept the efficacy of cold lasers.

And when he doesn't agree, he uses an eviscerating style which is downright impolite. I didn't need that sort of judgement and quit his list on my own a few years ago.

Not to mention the infamous Bill Proctor scam, in which he was completely taken in despite considerable first hand proof, and would never admit it. Nope, Tom has a lot to offer the scientific world but his social skills and his my-way-or-the-highway approachh makes his brand of sportscience a boutique experience.

Lynne

On Sep 13, 2004, at 11:01 AM, heidi wrote:

Gotta stand up for Tom here! I'm on his list and if you can disagree and back up your opinions with fact/science, he'll listen! Seen it myself!
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heidi larson


Joe Long <jlong@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0600, Lif Strand wrote:

>At 12:12 PM 9/9/2004, mike everett wrote:
>>where is tom ivers. i sure miss his intellect. anybody know how to contact
>>him? things sure were alot more interesting when he was on here. thanks, mike

>Tom his has own list, called HorseScience. He runs a tight ship. Tom does
>not suffer fools on that list, keeps everyone strictly on topic, and if
>it's not about horse science, and it isn't backed up with verifiable facts
>or presented as a theory which has the potential to be carried out in the
>world as a true scientific experiment, then it isn't allowed on the
>list. Tom doesn't generally give most people more than one chance to screw
>up on that list.

Yep, that sounds like Tom, all right. Translation: if you want to be on that
list, you better not disagree with Tom, about anything.

--

Joe Long
jlong@xxxxxxxx
http://www.rnbw.com


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