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Re: [RC] new vs old bloodlines - heidi

In studying bloodlines, how is it determined what is "new" and what is
"old"?  Is "new" what is bred in the U.S. and "old" what is bred off
continent? What are the resources out there to figure this stuff out?
Thanks, Erica DeVoti

Actually, it tends to be the other way around... <g>  With "new" being
from off-continent and "old" being from here...  But that is an
oversimplification.

The changes in the breed began occurring in the 50s, and really gained
momentum in the 60s and 70s.  Many people use WWII as a turning point. 
CMK uses pre-1950 as the cutoff point for accepting non-CMK dam lines.

What is "new" is anything that comes from a program that aimed toward
altering the breed from that point on.  What is "old" is anything that
comes from a program that tried to continue to breed classic horses from
that point on.

The majority of the CMK horses are of "old" type.  Horses like Edie
Booth's Sa'ud horses are very classic.  Those Polish breeders who have
clung to lines such as the Patton Polish imports and the Travelers Rest
horses and have bred them true to type have "old" horses.  I am less
familiar with Egyptian breeding, but one can find "old" Egyptian horses as
well.

Horses that come out of the "big name" show programs are the ones that
tend to stray from classic type and classic capabilities.  Since the "new"
programs started with "old" horses, many of their early "culls" were
pretty good horses that threw back to their "old" ancestors and therefore
were not used for breeding.  So what has happened is that the "extreme"
types of horses have been selected to breed, so there is a shift in the
population of the "new" horses AWAY from using-type or classically
functional horses.  As this shift gets further and further from using
type, and as it goes on for more and more generations, there are less and
less "culls" that are suitable for riding, as the rejects begin to have
more and more of the traits for which their immediate ancestors have been
selected, and simply don't have the "charisma" to be show horses.

Dunno if that answers your question, but there it is...

Heidi


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