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RE: [RC] Horses staying in shape and knees - Libby & Quentin Llop DVM

Dear Catfish:
 
    I did both of mine last Oct.  The collateral ligaments tore.  I avoided having to deal w/ inconvenient Dr. advice by not visiting one.  (But I did look at the ligaments with my ultrasound.)  Perhaps your ligaments are more severely damaged, so assessing the actual ligament/ meniscus damage is important.  Shredded ligaments require surgery.  Ones that are like bowed tendons on horse require physiotherapy.
    Assuming good fortune and your damage is the later, I will relate what worked for me.  Weight bearing was not painful, only straightening the legs. I found that altho walking was difficult (have you ever tried to walk w/ both knees flexed?), riding was not, as when riding ones knees are flexed.  The discomfort of pressure on the medial ligaments disappeared quickly; I think that, the massage of riding hastened the healing; anticipating this I got on a horse almost immediately, i.e. when the 'ice it' phase was over.    The week after my injury, I attended a veterinary meeting of acupuncturists.  A couple of them did 'energy work' including the Bowman technique, which I found extremely helpful.  (In 'wayout' California, this should be easy to find.) The body is dumb.  It assumes that you are in danger of doing again what injured you in the first place and hence goes overboard in protective swelling.  Most of the pain is from the swelling.  Reducing it by massage, energy work, and improving circulation will hasten healing.  Energy work is, in addition, helpful in reducing secondary problems in other parts of your body.  Expect a large bruise to form along the back of your thigh.  Now after 7 mo's the residual is a slight discomfort on one medial ligament and an inability to do unusual yoga like postures with the knees.   
    Good luck!.
 
Quentin
 
PS I want to add longeing to Jonni's recommendations. 
   
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From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Catfish Daniels
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:05 PM
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Subject: [RC] Horses staying in shape and knees

Hi everyone:

Just recently two topics were discussed, to which I sorta didn?t pay much attention to.  Today I wish I had, and any comments/suggestions would greatly be appreciated ? and I apologize for the repeat.

 

This morning I mis-stepped why standing on the back of my truck, and landed with a fully extended knee below ? hyper extended it pretty badly.  Anyway, can?t walk or put weight on it, it?s pretty swollen.  It feels like a prior meniscus injury I?ve had 18 months ago to which I elected to physical therapy and exercises rather than the recommended surgery.  Long story short, same swelling, same knee.  No sympathy, please?my own stupidity.  My question are these:

 

1)       For all 100 milers:  If this injury is the same as the last one I had, I won?t be back in the saddle for about 4-5 weeks, about beginning of July (if I?m lucky).  I?m on the entry list for this year?s Tevis Cup.  I know timing is very bad, but given what I?ve got to work with, how long can I ?sorta? expect for my horse to stay in shape without being exercised?  My mind?s playing tricks on me, and I swear he already gained 900 lbs when I missed this morning?s training ride.  Tevis is July 31st.

2)       As for the recent discussion about knee problems, what is the best experience any of you have had with different knee braces for best support while riding? 

 

Just like last time, the doctor?s orders (and I?ll see him on Tuesday) will be either surgery and/or lay off for a good while.  And obviously that Tevis is ?out?.  Stupid on my part ? yes ? but any suggestions on how to successfully ?attempt? to break the doctor?s orders would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks so much for any suggestions you may have.  I?m sorry to bother you guys with this sorta stuff.

 

Catfish

 

DBL Realtors

 


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