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Re: [RC] APF - Truman Prevatt



Ed & Wendy Hauser wrote:
"By getting so "huffy" over such things as MSM, APF, DMG, etc., I believe we are missing the forest because we keep banging into trees looking for it. What we might have is the average honest rider who wants only the best for his horse's health is vilified while someone else who has developed an effective program using steroids for example that will allow them to effectively strengthen a horse in a six month period slowly but completely remove the horse from the drugs so they are "not competing on performance enhancing drugs", come into a new season - kick butt and turn a good profit for the horses for a hundred grand over seas go get absolutely no attention. How's that for a runon sentence. Our rules and testing procedures are totally inadequate to detect that but that is the threat. And if it happens and comes to light it would do irreparable damage to the reputation of the sport. "
 
What substances does the AERC test for?  Do you know that the AERC is concerned about  MSM, DMG, etc  to the exclusion of substances you desire screened.?  Do you know that the AERC is concerned about dandelions?  Do you know the name of the lab the AERC uses?  Does the AERC list stay the same from year to year, or does it change when new threats are discovered?
 
The AERC states that they are concerned with such substances so if they say they are concerned with it then I take them for their word. If they are not they should say they are not - this topic has come up often enough.

To effectively test for the use of steroids in training (or heaven forbid designer steroids) as described above for example, the AERC quite simply doesn't have the funds. I suspect but don't know that it's very similar to the CA screening.  There could be some real nasty legal issues if the AERC accepted the test in CA in as their testing agent of testing applied a much different test in other areas. And in CA it is public law and available to the public.

The CTR organization in FL developed a new drug rule about 5 years ago. I started that work and someone else picked it up when my term on the board ran out. We worked with a couple vets from UF on that and I talked quite a bit with the vet I used when I lived in Sarasota when we were developing it. For years he ran the testing for drug testing for AHSA for the Grand Prix winter circuit  in SW FL.  BTW I showed him the AERC durg rule and his comment was "they can't be serious?" I would be extremely surprised if the AERC testing protocol is much different that that used by the AHSA or I guess it USEF now or  that used in SEDRA.

 
I will agree that more frequent testing should be done.  When I have competed for what I consider a full season, which is 9 or  10 rides I have been tested a bit less than one time a season.  Personally I would support increasing the drug test fee from $1 to $5 if it would yield 5 times the tests.  If ride fees went up by $10 to increase tests to a majority of rides I would pay with a complaint or two.  I'm not sure that the average member would consider that much of an increase money well spent. 
 
 
I've only been tested once - that was in 1996 at the ROC and every horse was tested at the finish line.
 
The only substance that I know for sure is usually (if not always) is in the screen is bute.  I know it has been screened for in the past because sanctions have been given out.

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We imitate our masters only because we are not yet masters ourselves, and only

We imitate our masters only because we are not yet masters ourselves, and only

because in doing so we learn the truth about what cannot be imitated.

 


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Re: [RC] APF, Magnumsmom
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