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RE: [RC] pulse - Alison Farrin

Would just have to caution that you are getting down to the point where
just the base excitement level can shoot a pulse up over your criteria.
Both my competition horses have true resting pulses of 28.  They vet in
pre ride 99% of the time at 40 to 44.  If you take his buddy away,
Ceders will jump over 50.  When I check my HR as we are walking to the
out timer during the ride (with me in the saddle) he's almost always
60+.  He is at 44 moments before, standing and eating his hay prior to
me getting back in the saddle.  His pulse goes up some just knowing we
are going to go again.   FWIW, these are both Arabs.

Alison A. Farrin
Innovative Pension
Innovative Retirement Services
858-748-6500 x 107
alison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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Stagg_Newman@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:50 AM
To: Sue Phillips
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Subject: Re: [RC] pulse



Sue,

I certainly do not mean to penalize other breeds.
I also believe the criteria has to be adjusted for conditions
and that decision should be made by the vets.  No one pulse
criteria will work in all conditions.

Clearly we need criteria that are as fair as possible to horses like
your.
What I would like to see is some good data in this area.

Have been in sport long enough to remember when people objected to
using 64 rather than 72 at most rides.  In retrospect that change was a
good one.

Another possibility to consider would be a lower pulse criteria at the
end
of the check.

Do you know what you horse's pulse is typically at the end of a hold
period?
Also what is his resting puse?
Does it take much longer for you horse to reach 64 than for the typical
Arab?

Note that what I am trying to do is get ideas on the table for
discussion
at this stage,
not propose specific changes.  Once we have ideas on the table we can
then
develop the data necessary to find the good ideas and throw out the bad.

Stagg





                    Sue Phillips

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                    02/14/2003          Subject:     pulse

                    08:37 AM









Stagg,
I will speak to the highest mountain on this one.
I ride and have only ridden quarter horses for endurance. I have had
the top Quarter Horse award from AQHA four different times. I have over
5,000 + miles ALL on quarter horses and consider my horses very very
fit. (I rode 1,150 miles last year all on the same quarter horse.) If
you give me a pulse of 56 with any kind of heat or humidity, I am in
most cases OUT!
Again, I resent penalizing me for the over ridden Arabians.
Sue P






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