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Re: [RC] [AERC-Members] HRM use at vet checks - Truman Prevatt

You are right on multiple counts. When I'm doing P&R's I always have a stethoscope around my neck and if it's not coming up, I go to the stethoscope. However, some of it is experience with the HRM. There is only one horse I know of where I just pick my stethoscope when they come in. Every other horse I've had no problem. On slab sided horses you just have to go lower with the HRM and that normally works.

On one horse last year it was counting a double beat - reading 110 when I knew good and well it wasn't 110. When I put the stethoscope of I found out why - it almost blew my ear drums but it was a big booming 55 not 110. On the other hand we had a nurse volunteer at a ride one time and while she know how to use a stethoscope just fine, she kept getting a double count till she got the hang of it.

As with every tool - experience always helps. The up side of them it's a lot easier to get volunteers who can be trained to use a HRM. Just as long as someone in the check has a stethoscope and can use it, hopefully it will work out.

Truman

Elaine Parker wrote:

Truman,

I checked this poll out.  I would answer yes to both questions, but that
wouldn't be exactly my opinion.  Polls, of course, are inherently limited.
Without a comment section I'm not able to say, yes I have been at rides
where they were used, yes it is a valid way to check, BUT -- it's not
necessarily the BEST way to check.  My horse happens to be one of those who
is problematic to check with a hand-held monitor.  It's hard to get a good
reading on him with one, and while I'm a back of the pack rider it's still
VERY annoying to have one or more people I rode in just ahead of be sent on
to the vet and receive an earlier out time than I just because I can't
convince the pulse-taker to stop fritzing around with that darn thing and
just USE a stethescope.

Not world-shakingly important, but then, it's not fair to penalize me by
delaying my out time because my horse is in good shape, comes in cool and
the darn monitor can't read him.  So, I personally hate the damn things.  I
think if I were running up front and a pulse taker caused me a delay because
of one I'd be down right annoyed.  I realize that they will probably be used
more and more often.  People always want to be dummied down.  Just stick a
monitor against the horse and read it out, instead of having to actually
listen to the heart and calculate it.  The popularity of the darn things is
probably more to do with the fact that it reads "66" or "62" or whatever and
the pulse taker doesn't have to multiply by four.  An ability that is sadly
lacking in a lot people nowadays.


Elaine Parker


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[mailto:AERCMembersForum-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Truman Prevatt
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:00 AM
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Subject: [AERC-Members] HRM use at vet checks


At the request of a few people, a poll was put up at http://www.seraonline.org concerning the use of hand held HRM to determine pulse at vetchecks at endurance ride. If you haven't taken it yet and have an opinion, let it be known.

Truman


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