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Let me beat Heidi to it!

Exit vet checks!  If the horse isn't ok at the end of the check, he is 
pulled.  Period.  No baby-him-till-the-next-check.

I still think the rider needs to talk to the vet, Howard.  That the vet 
has the right to ask "has he been EDPP", etc.  If he is 
uncharacteristically not drinking when usually he drinks like a fish, 
the exposure of that fact helps the RIDER make the right decision on 
the part of the horse.  Talking helps the rider reason it out, with the 
vet's input

JMO,
Lynne
who has pulled numerable times under RO conditions, which would be now 
better called RO-M or RO-L

On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 07:55 AM, Howard Bramhall wrote:

> OK, this is a viable argument and there have been times in the past I 
> have thought this way, also.
> ?
> First, let me say if a horse is in trouble, by all means, talk to the 
> vet.? Tell them everything you know.
> ?
> But, the competitive part of endurance, the part where it's a 
> pass/fail test at the vet check?concerning lameness, heart rate and 
> anything else related to completing the vet check should be as 
> objective as possible.? For a rider, who personally knows the vet or 
> vice-versa, this is where you get caveats thrown into the game that 
> should not be there.? For example, a well known rider comes in with a 
> horse that appears to be tired.? The vet tells the rider that the 
> horse needs to go slow or stop completely.? The rider agrees and 
> promises to slow down the next loop.? The vet, because he/she knows 
> and trusts this person, allows the horse to continue.
> ?
> The above situation should not happen.? Period.? And, it does, more 
> often than one would like to see.? To me, the horse either passes the 
> vet check or he does not.? No discussion is really necessary.? As many 
> endurance vets will tell you they've heard every excuse under the sun 
> mentioned by riders who want to continue on with their horse that is 
> borderline.? After all, to finish is to win.? What does that imply if 
> you don't finish????

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