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Re: [RC] [RC] Re-hashing E-dog collars - Long - Laurie Durgin

Is he alone? Maybe he is bored and lonely. Toys and a goat or maybe a flock of geese, maybe? Or another heard mate, a gelding or something? Hula hoops, milk jugs, feed bags?
My 2 year old plays with stuff and my mare 'taught " him to open the barn doors.
Hey, maybe make a wall of door locks for him to open and close?A 'baby busy box"?
Try doubling your fences about 2 feet apart? or maybe 6 feet.If youd tripled them maybe he'd just go back and forth? >vbg< or video games? (sorry I couldn't help myself, shagrinnned (sp).
I'd try amusing him first, or giving him a "job' first. He may just learn to tolarate pain to get what he wants or get neurotic> > > Laurie



From: "Kristene Smuts" <Ksmuts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [RC]   Re-hashing E-dog collars - Long
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:50:03 +0200

I'm going to run a huge risk here in re-hashing this subject, but I have no other choice. I've gone through the archives and all the posts dealt with these collars on dogs, not horses.

Let me paint a picture .....
I have a 2.5 yo colt, stunningly beautiful, great bloodlines, extremely intelligent, is marked to be the next breeding stallion. He's loved, cared for, receives the best nutrition, farrier every 5 weeks, mood changes are mostly ignored in these difficult times.

The problem is that he's an escape artist. No fence, other than an 8ft solid concrete wall with solid steel sliding gate can hold him .... maybe. He jumps or goes under anything you can possibly devise. Solid poles? No problem, he goes in-between the horizontal gaps (I've seen it with my own eyes!). I have an electric fence which keeps in a stallion in full view of in-heat mares, but is merely an annoyance to the colt. The greatest advantage to this horse is also the greatest disadvantage - his intelligence. He works at a problem until he solves it and I've even tried giving him toys to play with during the day and night, but after playing for half an hour, his attention turns to the fence. Once he's outside, he doesn't go running around, just has a look of achievement and carries on grazing. I've increased the capacity of the energizer to a game fence strength - this held him for 24 hours until he figured that this fence is the same as the last - if you're 2 inches away, then you get shocked, but not if you're actually holding on. He then worms his way out of the narrowest gap or runs straight through the fence, breaking the isolators as he goes.

He's my next endurance horse in addition to being the next breeding stallion, so I cannot afford for him NOT to have respect for an electric fence. Also, I rent a piece of property and don't want to spend any unnecessary money on somebody else's property. If this carries on, my vet bills are going to go through the roof as he starts finding out what those 2 round dangly things are for. I have a transportable electric fence for rides which keeps Ibn right where he belongs, but it would not keep this young man inside. I can't see myself transporting a concrete wall to rides ;-))

I have a three step plan :
1. Hot wire the fence, and if that doesn't work
2. Electric dog collar and take a few days of work, and if that doesn't work
3. Get rid of him.

I've spent many hours fixing fences in addition to the cost of upgrading the energizer plus more tape to almost make a solid wall. This has been going on for the past 1.5 years, so I don't think anybody can accuse me of not having patience with him. Every time he manages to solve a problem, he learns another lesson - and it's not always the lesson I WANT him to learn!

Does anybody have a better solution? And if you've used the collar on horses, what results have you been getting?

If this topic is too controversial, please e-mail me privately.

Thanks
"End-of-her-tether" Kristene
South Africa


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