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[RC] [RC] New Truck (Nina - Roger RittenhouseOverloaded is overloaded - NOT safe and also illegal - IF you exceed the GVWR ( the load placed on the truck plus the truck itself) and OR the GCWR - ( the sum of the LOADED truck and LOADED trailer.. You are NOT safe .. I PULL just fine at 22k with my F350 -- 2k OVERLOADED and so far it stops just fine.. but I installed a $400 set of after market HI perf rotors and brake pads.. they dont fade warp or loose stopping power.-- but I am still out of mfgr specs...they can void the warranty for that. I am also over the plated F350 4x4 CC LWB DRW - rated at 11200. I normally will run about 11500 to 11900. I added a BIG transmission cooler and the temp gauge along with a turbo temp gauge, Trans never gets over 180 ever. I have an exhaust brake. ( mfgr can and will void the warranty -depends on the dealer) DO I 'feel' safe -- that is relative.. so far no problems.. HOWEVER IF I am in a wreck and someone gets hurt - or not -- I AM AT FAULT no MATTER what. The insurance company will walk away after my wrecked rig is weighed. I could go to jail if some one is killed. An ole boy from Etowah is doing 5 yrs for that. 32 ft- 3 horses and F350 one dead lady in the car he ran over- who pulled out in front of him.. doing hard time. Reckless indangerment and willful neglect and manslauter, was the charge and he took the wrap. Ins paid zip. But it WONT happen to me or you ? right? If I am very lucky - just like ALL (most) all the riders pulling BAT with ONE ton trucks the worst that will happen, is I get stopped and get a BAF (big ass fine) The 2003 Chev, based on my book I have here lists the max TRAILER loaded weight at 14900. (HD3500 4x4 duramax auto The MAX COMBINED weight is 22000 ( same truck ) per 2003 truck manual. but the GVWR is only shown at 11,400.. not much more then the Ford, but still I would be over most of the time. To get the higher rating you need to use the C4500 that one is rated at 26500 to 27500 total combined weight. But dont go over 26K then you are commercial and need a CDL.. Big Chev 4500 does not come in a 4x4 yet. DO NOT listen to the dealer SALESMAN. Read the Book. -- and look at the GVWR on the door plate. I was told by the salesman ( last week) the 'new chev' had a GVWR of 15000, I have the book here.. He just wanted to sell me a Chev to get me out of my Ford. I wanted to get the F450 Ford. 4x4 etc. well the insurance for the over one ton trucks is commercial - period. Cost for new F450 $1200 per year.. Cost for my F350 $ 500 per year..I may still end up with one and bite the ins costs So whats the fix - Look at the Chev, rated higher. Not really going to down-size the trailer. Even with the Chev HD3500 I wil be close to the limit. You folks pulling over 28 ft are really running at risk.. but so is doing the Tevis.. so just go for it and hope you never get stopped or have a wreck. I understand many states are setting up DOT policy to weigh ALL pickup trucks pulling a trailer, RV Horse travel - what ever. I think SD ND NE do this now. Some states already do so. I understand PA NC SC are going to start this. The fix is a motorhome a BIG ONE, they are exempt from the 26K CDL. Never had problems with the BIG truck MH but it got STUCK all the time.. WAY to much to get a tow all the time.. or use 2- 4x4 trucks to pull it out... Here in TN a Motohome is suppose to have a J tag with a weight rating , not many do that but if your tag from the state has a weight rating - you cannot exceed that either. I run a 26000 pnd licence plate rating on the F350 - I would be 'legal' on the tag and the registration. But over on the mfgr specs. Its a no win - IF you get stopped. If I really want or have to drive a one ton - I may just have to get a smaller trailer.. and that would be a bum deal. Maybe the real fix is a BP trailer and a tent - and bucket .. like the old days when I started with a Chev C30 and DD 2 hr trailer and a trap over the bed... hehehe NOT going to happen. Time to get out of the truck... Roger R V-MAX Equine HRM Equine Performance Technology 800 655 8629 423 253 3882 Phone or Fax www.vmaxept.com pictures http://community.webshots.com/user/psdendurance =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.endurance.net/ads/seabiscuit.html Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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