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[RC] Question for Heidi or anyone - rackinfool

What do you as a Vet think of the new Equine Dentists that are coming out of the school in Idaho? Or any other school.
I just had my vet here this morning and asked him to float my four year old geldings teeth.
I also have a Equine Dentist from another country staying with me for a few months.
My Vet allowed this woman dentist to "check" his work. We were very lucky as my horse is very quiet and did not need a speculum, Vet used his thumb to keep the mouth opened.
After Vet finished, the Equine Dentist was invited by the Vet to feel.
she said the number 11, which is the tricky molar was still very sharp. So Vet told her to take his floats and have at it.
She has a different type of floats and had some trouble getting to the number 11 with his larger floats, but she did get some of the sharpness off.
After the Vet left and horse was somewhat still sedated, Equine Dentist came up to the house and got her own tools and with her thinner and specialized float got back to number 11 and got the points off.
She also mentioned the corner incisors were longer than the other incisors and should be floated to give proper balance to the jaw.
And then she mentioned the number six which is the first molar, that would be considered as the tooth for the bit seat, should be also floated down more than the other molars to give more space against the bit hitting the molar and she says that the number six molar is not being grinded down  like the other molars,because of the high quality food that we feed our horses as opposed to wild horses that are actually grinding all the molars in the circle that is normal to keep all teeth at the same or near same level.
The sixth and eleventh molars are not being used effectively for grinding like the molars between those two molars, thus the need for more concern on the sixth and eleventh which are getting the "hooks" and sometimes really large hooks that then cause the pain in the mouth.And according to her, more importantly, they are not getting the food that they need and then you will find a thin horse because the food is falling out of their jaw.
so she feels that the number six molar needs to be rounded more and then they would not need to be floated every six months but once a year.
Now, to the question on the canine teeth. She asks if the person that is inquiring is absolutely certain that she is seeing canine teeth and not wolf teeth.
she has not seen a horse sprout canine teeth at age two, but the wolf teeth can erupt as early as a year and usually between 6 and 9 months.  It could happen that a horse could get a second pair of wolf teeth, but the canines are only one set. And the norm is like the poster said, coming in between age 4 and 5, exceptions for everything but very rare.
Just in discussion with her, I thought that canine teeth were the same as wolf teeth, but she corrected me on that.
So I guess one should be absolutely positive that they are indeed talking canine teeth at this late age.
Anyhoo, would like to hear what you think of the Equine dentistry, as my Vet thinks it is just a money making scam. Hmmm.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] Canine teeth and horses age

>I have
> had a couple of vets, horseshoers and trainers look at him and had answers
> of between 6 and 8, with 7-8 being the consensus.  Well, in the last
> of weeks he sprouted upper canines!  Everything I can find on the 'net
> the canines come in between 4 and 5.  His behavior has always been
> consistant with a younger animal, but that could be environmental and lack
> of socialization.  He is low man in the herd, is very emotionally
> immature/insecure, and still "gapes" his whole mouth to show submission
> a foal.
> So, do I take this new tooth development to validate my impression of his
> age; or can they come in later and I should go with what the "experts"
> told me?

First, get a vet well-versed in dentistry to make the determination.
Second, there is considerable variation in eruption of canines, so he could
well be a few years older than the norm.




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[RC] Canine teeth and horses age, Jena Williams
Re: [RC] Canine teeth and horses age, Heidi Smith