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Re: [RC] Remote dog collar - Jackie Winkleman

A girl I new in college did a research project on using shock collars. 
It has been a few years, but here's what I remember from her project.

She used a grey arab that cribbed.  She hid in the top of the barn. 
She used peep holes to see out of.  Everyday when the horse was brought
into the barn, a shock collar was placed on the horse.  She observed
for the entire time the horse was in the stall.  When the horse would
begin to crib, she would press the shock button.  Eventually he quit
cribbing while he was in the stall WITH the shock collar on.  As long
as that collar was on him, he would not crib.  She also observed that
when he went into the stall and NO shock collar was put on him, he did
go back to cribbing.  He knew when it was there and when it wasn't.

Some of those horses are just too smart!  I thought that was an
interesting research project though.  The girl had to get bored though
- just sitting there for hours watching a horse standing in a stall
hours a day - for weeks!

This is just what I remember from years ago - so it is very possible
that I have forgotten some of the control factors...

Jackie




--- Bette Lamore <woa@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I zapped our Australian Shepherd (full grown when we adopted her) and

she rolled over and disappeared for three days. When she came back we

did not see her chasing the horses so we thought it worked--- that
is, 
until we came home one morning from brunch and spotted her chasing
the 
babies. She had learned it only works when she can see us (and vice 
versa). We found her a good home and my husband mourned--- she was a 
great dog but the risk was too great. If you condition a puppy early,
it 
could work but we went through three Aussie's/Border Collies before
we 
gave up--- my husband loved the breed--- so smart---- TOOO smart!!! I

can't help but wonder if Arabians, being so smart, could figure out
the 
"out of sight--- out of danger" principle, too ;-)
Bette

Sullivan wrote:

I got one originally becuase my ACD would chase and nip the horses.
 
(She was a rescue at year old, so missed some critical training and

socializing months).  The collar was a last resort....and even on
the 
strongest shock, it did not deter her....the heeling instinct was
just 
too strong....
Karen

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Ag47xAu49@xxxxxxx <mailto:Ag47xAu49@xxxxxxx>
    To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:00 AM
    Subject: [RC] Remote dog collar

    Put the collar on your arm first, then test it. I used one on
my
    shepard when she would run the pony. I was told to make sure
she
    was corrected the first time, make sure the pulse was strong
    enought to get her attention. It did. She yelped for at least
30
    seconds. I felt horrible. It stopped her from running the pony,
    putting him through a fence or getting her head kicked in. For
    other correction, trying to eat other dogs, I made sure the
shock
    was much less, just enought for a reminding tickle. Beccy 


-- 
Bette Lamore
Whispering Oaks Arabians
Home of 16.2h TLA Halynov
who lives on through his legacy
Hal's Riverdance!
http://www.arabiansporthorse.com

Always remember: "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we
take, but by the moments that take our breath away." (George Carlin)
 




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