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Re: [RC] Endurance Polls/Recovery Times - rides2farMOST people are presenting for their P&R with tack on freshly off the trail. Often times they haven't even taken their horses to the trailer/crew spot yet. They pulse in, get their in/out time, and THEN go untack and prepare for the vetcheck. Again, there's a problem. I know out west lots of times you guys just yell "P&R" and someone comes over and takes it. At our rides we have an area roped off with a timer at the entry. When you go in there you get your P&R. Then you have to go directly to the vet because they have it roped off and you can't go against the stream. Often at the big rides this is a *very* choreographed line with a person who tells you when a vet is open and to step forward. Our vets USUALLY require tack off so you have to go to your crew area and untack before presenting for P&R. I'm not a vet and I'm sure they see things I don't but in general I don't think shortening the time is the answer. Most of the horses I've seen on IV's were recovering well within the time. I've only seen a few horses ever who were having trouble recovering within 30 min. who didn't have plenty of other reasons that the vet could use to pull them. I have seen some strange situations like a horse who just wouldn't relax and pee who the 30 min. cut off pulled when he was really fine when he peed at 35 min. When you have vets setting the recovery criteria at 60 on hot days and a horse that's watching everything or needs to just chill awhile that 30 min. could get by pretty quick. A horse that goes to 64 and hangs looks a lot different than one that's hanging at 88. The horse that needed to pee looked a LOT different than the over ridden horses I've seen some Yahoos trying to cool out to make the 30 min. cut off. Surely a vet could differentiate. Is there a problem with what *reason* the vet would have to give for pulling the horse he didn't feel was handling the trail, or rider who was definately over riding even if he did make the cut off at the last second? Maybe we need a P/VGF designation (pulled/vet's gut feeling) Angie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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