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Re: [RC] re: hobbling to saddle - Stephanie E CaldwellOkay... That makes sense. Sounds pretty much like my free lunge time. I've never seen anybody really good work a horse in the Round Pen. After almost two years of work I can free lunge my horse at all three gaits, extend and collect, and do some basic lateral moves off of voice commands. But, when I was "taught" to RP they said you ran the horse until it licked it's lips and then let it come into you... I never understood what that taught them, and I'm too cheap to buy the books and tapes. LOL Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Morris <bobmorris@xxxxxxxx> To: Stephanie E Caldwell <sec@xxxxxxxx>; Sullivan <greymare@xxxxxxx>; Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: RE: [RC] re: hobbling to saddle Well Steph, I use the round pen to train horses but my protocol does not include running then in the slightest. I have found that trotting a horse in a pen is simple, the trick is to WALK the horse in the round pen. Every thing I do is done initially at a walk. Only at later stages is a trot allowed. All ground work and all mounted work is started at a walk in the round pen. Then, the round pen was suited to the minimal flat ground that I have and it excludes all the other horses when I am training. It is the only enclosure I have and works fine. When training progresses out of the walk, slow trot stage, then the hills are used and the brush and other natural features become incorporated as training aids. Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Stephanie E Caldwell Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:49 PM To: Sullivan; Ridecamp Subject: Re: [RC] re: hobbling to saddleI find most of it pointless, dangerous and annoying to thehorse. << My horse is a very intelligent horse with an attitude like most Arabs. She learned early on with the first Parelli/Lyons type trainer to lay down when she was through. When that quit working she started jumping the 5' Round pen. LOL We've since quit trying NH and gone back to German training and Cowboy training, I grew up with German trainers and she grew up with Cowboy trainers, but my question is to those of y'all who believe in NH, what do horses gain out of RPing? I know people who RP every time they ride, for about 20 minutes before hand, why? I've never had one who could tell me why they were in teh RP chasing their horse around with a whip... My horse was severly abused as a youngster (one reason I'm so against abuse). She was broke around 14 - 16 months after being "found" in someones corrall in Texas. She's supposed to be a Spanish Mustang. When I purchased her she was 2 or 3 and ended up having some very severe behavior issues. The original people that broke her used barbed wire for her curb chain, she has no feeling in her mouth, from her reaction she was apparently beaten severly, she was used to do ranch work for a few months. She was terrified of people in general when I bought her, so I'd always been around Dressage and the barn I boarded at was into John Lyons. They convinced me to let them "train" my horse that they could fix her quicker... She ended up hating NH and I took about 6 months and rebroke her slowly. She's a wonderful little mare who loves people now, but all they did to her in her RP training was run her around the RP until I rescued her from them after half an hour or so because she wouldn't "join up". I do lunge sometimes before I ride. If Star's been in all week (like this week... around here it's supposed to rain until Friday) I'll lunge her on a 30' line just so I can keep her from flying around. If her pasture's not flooded I turn her out for half an hour and let her get all that pent up energy. Somedays I'll get on her and let her run... Just depends on how brave I am! Steph =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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