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Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] [RC] Rascal and the Hackamore - Laurie Durgin

So when I get this all adjusted(I may have to cut some of the bridle off, I took it all the way up and extra strap is almost to his ears! LOL(a 25.00 bridle,if this works I may switch it to my biothane or get another it will fit on.)So what about "rounding"? Does the horse need to already do this before you put him in a hack? I can do the "no contact" thing as he hates it anyway, and I only do it when I am "doing my backyard dressage" in the ring.If it helps his "You want me to stop?maybe later" routine ,then it may work out real well on trail.I have worked some with giving to poll pressure, so it may be an added plus.He did seem responseive to it yesterday, when t quits raining again (sigh) I will see if it is consistant.
Is there any problem with horses in hacks, getting "strung out"? Any other weak areas?
I can see if this works, then I may use the snaffle for "dressage work", but the hack for our trail work.
I like the looks and idea of a bosal, just don't know how to train for one. Any good books or sources?(I read voraciosuly(just can't spell). (slow down Laurie, how many headgears are you going to collect??? LOL)








From: "Bonnie Davis" <horsecamping@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Laurie Durgin" <ladurgin@xxxxxxx>,<eyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] Rascal and the Hackamore
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:14:05 -0800

The hackamore bit should sit with noseband just above the soft nose tissue.
(To low and one will cut the air off when horse breaths.)  Shanks centered
just above corners of mouth.  Curb chain is above groove in chin about an
inch.  The whole hackamore bit should fit the horse's face.  The nose band
sits above and fits over the nose to top of shanks -- no space.  The curb
chain fits under jaw and has enough room for maybe about a little finger
tip.  There shouldn't be a finger or two.  The idea is to have instant
contact when pulling back on reins which is why its so IMPORTANT to have
good hands and ride light -- no pulling or tugging on reins.

Going back to the 60's, mechanical hackamore bits used to be considered the
'bit of last resort' for horses that ran through bits and used to be seen on
a lot of gymkhana and rope horses.

When the mechanical hackamore was first put on Flint, he tried to run
through it once or twice and soon learned a quick jerk hurt.  So he gave up
trying to take the bit and run through it.  After about 3 months use, Flint
was a horse you just shifted weigh on and he moved in that direction.

Flint was the only horse I've used a mechanical hackamore on and as I've
said, my Quarter Horse, Sig, is in a regular hackamore. There is a
difference. The mechanical hackamore has a chain under chin and noseband
with reins attached to shanks all on a headstall. The regular hackamore has
a bosel from which double reins are taken from a knot under the jaw line.
The knot is adjusted for various pressure. Personally, I like the hackamore
because I like the way it looks on Sig plus he has nothing in his mouth so I



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