Ridecamp: Re: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders

Ok, from a newbie standpoint, I'll put my two cents in. I've ridden only two
25 milers (my original intent was to ride one 25-miler and then advance to a
50, much to the dismay of my seasoned 1970's father who screamed "25! That's
not an endurance ride!". My first, the Fireworks 25 in Santa Cruz, CA has
two holds, one 20 minute and one 30 minute so riding time was 5:10. My
second ride was the East Bay 25 with only one 15 minute hold, giving me 5:45
minutes to complete the ride.

Quite confusing for a newbie who sees all these rules about meeting criteria
but the holds are completely up to the RM's. After doing both and coming in
last on the first one and almost last on the second one, believe it or not,
I liked the holds on the first one better. But it really does make a newbie
wonder about the difference allowed in the actual ride time vs. the AERC
6-hours-to-complete thing.

I've heard lots of comments about how any horse should be able to complete a
25 in the time allotted with no problem staying with the time limit. I
conditioned for three months ahead of time, 3 days a week 7 miles per day
and every other weekend a 12-15 mile LSD. I still was only able to come in
almost last, at a speed I thought my horse could handle. But then, again,
I'm riding a 5-year-old Mustang and not a naturally-enabled Arabian (boy,
have I seen this to be true with my daughter's new Arabian and my new
Arabian who right out of the starting gate, at 10 times more able than my
"conditioned" Mustang. So for me, I guess I'm saying, it seems to make sense
more so, that hold time values be established just as much as completion
times.

I'll take any and all comments on this one!

:) Jackie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steph Teeter" <steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jim Holland" <lanconn@xxxxxxx>
Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders


> The original rationale for the proposed change was to find a way to allow
LD
> competitors 6 hours to complete the event, but not disqualify riders that
> finished the physical course in 6 hours, and took an additional amount of
> time to reach pulse criteria. This change would enable that since their
ride
> time is calculated based upon when they cross the finish line, not when
the
> pulse criteria is met. If the BC forms for LD were also changed, to
specifiy
> that the pulse time was to be used, not the ride time, would it then be an
> acceptable (or  desirable) rule change?
>
> Steph
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Holland [mailto:lanconn@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders
>
>
> Steph...
>
> OK, I'll bite...what is the rationale from the proposer for making the
> change?  Statistical?  Easier for the Ride Manager? Why would we want to
> base BC score on THAT time instead of placement time?  I must be missing
> something here...
>
> Jim, Sun of Dimanche, and Mahada Magic
>
> Steph Teeter wrote:
> >
> > I have a question for you guys:
> >
> > One of the AERC directors is proposing a Rules change to LD, where the
LD
> > rider's finish time would be determined by when they cross the finish
> line,
> > rather than when the horse's pulse reaches criteria. In this proposal
the
> > placement (first, second, third, etc) of each competitor would then be
> > determined separately by when their horse's pulse reaches criteria.
> >
> > So your ride time would be determined by when you cross the finish line.
> > This is the time that would be published in AERC results, PNER results,
> etc,
> > and this is the time that would be used to calculate BC scores.
> >
> > But placement is entirely different - it is determined by when the horse
> > reached criteria.
> >
> > I would love to hear some opinions on this -
> >
> > Steph
> >
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