Ridecamp: Re: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders

As an experienced ride manager, no way do I want my hold times to be 
determined by someone  unfamiliar with our terrain and/or weather 
conditions.  It's my responsibility to look at our selected trail, and 
decide what the holds will be.  I'm doing that right now for the new 
Bar H Boogie ride.  OTOH, on the Norco ride this year, I had 
accumulated 4 years of completion statistics and timetables for the in 
and out on the checks to know how long riders stayed in the check, etc. 
 This is the first year we've had people overtime who completed the 
course, and we had the same hold times for 3 years.

Confusing?  That's why we have ride meetings the night before, to make 
sure everyone knows what the criteria is and what the hold times are.

Two holds on a 25, with 50 minutes total, is too much, IMHO.  I 
personally feel there should be no more than 30 minutes of hold in a 
25, to allow more time to complete.  But it's still the ride manager's 
judgment call, and the directors can help out a new ride mgr by 
reviewing their plans.

Lynne
Bar H Boogie (PS) 3/1/03

On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 07:08 PM, Typef wrote:

> <snip>

> Quite confusing for a newbie who sees all these rules about meeting 
> criteria
> but the holds are completely up to the RM's. After doing both and 
> coming in
> last on the first one and almost last on the second one, believe it or 
> not,
> I liked the holds on the first one better. But it really does make a 
> newbie
> wonder about the difference allowed in the actual ride time vs. the 
> AERC
> 6-hours-to-complete thing.
>
> I've heard lots of comments about how any horse should be able to 
> complete a
> 25 in the time allotted with no problem staying with the time limit. I
> conditioned for three months ahead of time, 3 days a week 7 miles per 
> day
> and every other weekend a 12-15 mile LSD. I still was only able to 
> come in
> almost last, at a speed I thought my horse could handle. But then, 
> again,
> I'm riding a 5-year-old Mustang and not a naturally-enabled Arabian 
> (boy,
> have I seen this to be true with my daughter's new Arabian and my new
> Arabian who right out of the starting gate, at 10 times more able than 
> my
> "conditioned" Mustang. So for me, I guess I'm saying, it seems to make 
> sense
> more so, that hold time values be established just as much as 
> completion
> times.
>
> I'll take any and all comments on this one!
>
> :) Jackie


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