Re: Re: Reply to rearing

["Jessica Spoone" <lady_selene@hotmail.com>]

The daughter of one of the members of my saddle club died becuase of a
tiedown. She was riding with a friend along a lake edge and her horse
spooked and ran into the lake. She and the horse drowned before anything
could be done. I'm not against tiedowns personally but I won't use one if
I'm anywhere near water.
----- Original Message -----
From: sharp penny <penelope_75647@yahoo.com>
To: <Howard4567@aol.com>
Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: RC: Re: Reply to rearing


> Hi Howard,
>
>   Just playing devils advocate here..but... what
> happens when ur horse has his head down to eat or
> drink, something startles it and some how he manages
> to get a hoof caught up in the tie down or the tie
> down caught in a root or immovable rock?
>
>   Also what happens if you are crossing a large wide
> stream, it suddenly dips or your horse stumbles on an
> unseen rock, his head goes under for a split sec, and
> he panics when he can't raise his head high enough to
> clear the water. FYI I have seen this one happen,
> almost lost the horse when rider was scramlbing to
> find pocket knife to cut the tie down off. Very
> scary!!!
>
>    Just some thoughts to consider before dragging that
> tiedown out for a "quick fix"
>
> Penny & Daisy (who has been known to rear and flip
> over backwards when very excited)
>
> --- Howard4567@aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 6/26/01 3:55:53 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time,
> > guest@endurance.net writes:
> >
> > > Ray O. rno2m@virginia.edu
> > >     The endurance folks are better horsepeople
> > than me,but since rearing is
> > >  potentially so dangerous,I want to make a few
> > observations.I think putting
> > >  the go forward cue to a high-rearing horse may
> > bring him higher and
> > >  higher,just as the spur will send a backing horse
> > faster backwards.When
> > >  Chico rears on me,I YIELD,and we try again with
> > some different approach
> > >  after his feet are back on the ground.Is this
> > conditioning him to rear?
> > >  Maybe,but you are SCREWED,potentially with a
> > crushed spinal cord, once
> > >  they are up pawing at the sky and turning.All I
> > do up there is lean
> > >  forward , get out of the stirrups,and talk softly
> > to him.There is said to
> > >  be a technique where you take your feet out of
> > the stirrups and drag him
> > >  down in a heap with one rein,whilst neatly
> > sliding off and stepping
> > >  aside,avoiding all flailing legs and hoofs,and
> > quickly sitting on his head
> > >  to punish him.Hah! Maybe some Olympic gymnast,but
> > not me.
> >
> >  My 17 hand Saddlebred used to do this (rearing),
> > and, sometimes, still tries
> > to.
> > First thing is use a tie down.  Get your horse used
> > to one, don't make it too
> > tight unless they leave you no choice.  But make it
> > tight enough to stop
> > those big rear ups. This doesn't stop it completely,
> > but controls it to a low
> > level.
> >
> > There is a way to ride your horse safely, if they
> > have a tendency to rear.
> > Since I'm cheap, I buy young horses.  Young horses
> > that rear are humblingly
> > dangerous.
> >
> > The main thing is to temporarily change how you
> > ride, especially in the trot.
> >  I call this rear maintenance (maintaining your butt
> > up, no posting).  Ride
> > like a jockey; but not with your stirrups as high,
> > some call it the two or
> > three point.  Make that third point your hand, on
> > your horses neck, above the
> > withers.  And keep the pressure of your weight over
> > this hand, all the time.
> > This will encourage your horse to keep moving
> > forward, and with your weight
> > on top of your hand, it will stop the rearing.
> >
> > You are more in tune with this part of your horse's
> > body, when you're
> > constantly applying pressure on his neck.  And if
> > you let your horse stop,
> > you're hand on his neck will let you know when
> > they're attempting to rear up.
> >  You don't want this to happen, but if it does, you
> > throw all of your weight
> > towards the neck, and force the horse down.  Be
> > careful here, this is the
> > dangerous part.  Like I said, avoid it if you can.
> > But, because your hand is
> > constantly there, you are able to do this maneuver
> > with quite a force, and
> > timed correctly, it will get any horse down quickly.
> >  As quickly as your able
> > to do so.  And I'd yell in his ear as my head goes
> > down alongside his neck.
> > I want him to know I'm pissed off.
> >
> > Your horse cannot rear up while moving forward.
> > They may, however, be able
> > to do it if you spin them in tight circles.  Your
> > circle must be large enough
> > to keep that forward momentum going.  Rearring up
> > while making a tight circle
> > is very dangerous.  This is when they can flip over.
> >
> > Just keep your horse in a straight line, down the
> > trail, riding two point,
> > with your hand on their neck.  If they stop and try
> > to rear, put your body
> > weight over your hand, and you might even have to
> > slide your hand up higher
> > towards the horse's head.  And try to keep them
> > moving forward.  Personally,
> > if the horse does this cause he's young, green, or
> > just full of himself, I'd
> > wear them down out on the trail.  At least far
> > enough to take full control;
> > especially with the rearing.  A semi-tired horse
> > won't rear.
> >
> > Also, play around with the tighness of your tie
> > down.  Eventually, you'll
> > want it loose, but if your horse keeps challenging
> > you, don't be afraid to
> > make it tighter.
> >
> > Please, be careful.  My techniques are my own;
> > they're not certified by John
> > Lyons or Monty Roberts.  And I'd hate to read a post
> > that someone's ended up
> > in the hospital because they tried one of my ideas.
> > But this one does work,
> > for me and my nutty Saddlebred, and a few others
> > I've tried it on.
> >
> > cya,
> > Howard
> >
> >
> >
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