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Re: RC: Re: Reply to rearing

 Hi Howard,

  Just playing devils advocate here..but... what
happens when ur horse has his head down to eat or
drink, something startles it and some how he manages
to get a hoof caught up in the tie down or the tie
down caught in a root or immovable rock?

  Also what happens if you are crossing a large wide
stream, it suddenly dips or your horse stumbles on an
unseen rock, his head goes under for a split sec, and
he panics when he can't raise his head high enough to
clear the water. FYI I have seen this one happen,
almost lost the horse when rider was scramlbing to
find pocket knife to cut the tie down off. Very

   Just some thoughts to consider before dragging that
tiedown out for a "quick fix"

Penny & Daisy (who has been known to rear and flip
over backwards when very excited)

--- wrote:
> In a message dated 6/26/01 3:55:53 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time, 
> writes:
> > Ray O.
> >     The endurance folks are better horsepeople
> than me,but since rearing is
> >  potentially so dangerous,I want to make a few
> observations.I think putting
> >  the go forward cue to a high-rearing horse may
> bring him higher and
> >  higher,just as the spur will send a backing horse
> faster backwards.When
> >  Chico rears on me,I YIELD,and we try again with
> some different approach
> >  after his feet are back on the ground.Is this
> conditioning him to rear?
> >  Maybe,but you are SCREWED,potentially with a
> crushed spinal cord, once
> >  they are up pawing at the sky and turning.All I
> do up there is lean
> >  forward , get out of the stirrups,and talk softly
> to him.There is said to
> >  be a technique where you take your feet out of
> the stirrups and drag him
> >  down in a heap with one rein,whilst neatly
> sliding off and stepping
> >  aside,avoiding all flailing legs and hoofs,and
> quickly sitting on his head
> >  to punish him.Hah! Maybe some Olympic gymnast,but
> not me.
>  My 17 hand Saddlebred used to do this (rearing),
> and, sometimes, still tries 
> to.  
> First thing is use a tie down.  Get your horse used
> to one, don't make it too 
> tight unless they leave you no choice.  But make it
> tight enough to stop 
> those big rear ups. This doesn't stop it completely,
> but controls it to a low 
> level.  
> There is a way to ride your horse safely, if they
> have a tendency to rear.  
> Since I'm cheap, I buy young horses.  Young horses
> that rear are humblingly 
> dangerous.
> The main thing is to temporarily change how you
> ride, especially in the trot. 
>  I call this rear maintenance (maintaining your butt
> up, no posting).  Ride 
> like a jockey; but not with your stirrups as high,
> some call it the two or 
> three point.  Make that third point your hand, on
> your horses neck, above the 
> withers.  And keep the pressure of your weight over
> this hand, all the time.  
> This will encourage your horse to keep moving
> forward, and with your weight 
> on top of your hand, it will stop the rearing.  
> You are more in tune with this part of your horse's
> body, when you're 
> constantly applying pressure on his neck.  And if
> you let your horse stop, 
> you're hand on his neck will let you know when
> they're attempting to rear up. 
>  You don't want this to happen, but if it does, you
> throw all of your weight 
> towards the neck, and force the horse down.  Be
> careful here, this is the 
> dangerous part.  Like I said, avoid it if you can.
> But, because your hand is 
> constantly there, you are able to do this maneuver
> with quite a force, and 
> timed correctly, it will get any horse down quickly.
>  As quickly as your able 
> to do so.  And I'd yell in his ear as my head goes
> down alongside his neck.  
> I want him to know I'm pissed off.
> Your horse cannot rear up while moving forward. 
> They may, however, be able 
> to do it if you spin them in tight circles.  Your
> circle must be large enough 
> to keep that forward momentum going.  Rearring up
> while making a tight circle 
> is very dangerous.  This is when they can flip over.
> Just keep your horse in a straight line, down the
> trail, riding two point, 
> with your hand on their neck.  If they stop and try
> to rear, put your body 
> weight over your hand, and you might even have to
> slide your hand up higher 
> towards the horse's head.  And try to keep them
> moving forward.  Personally, 
> if the horse does this cause he's young, green, or
> just full of himself, I'd 
> wear them down out on the trail.  At least far
> enough to take full control; 
> especially with the rearing.  A semi-tired horse
> won't rear.
> Also, play around with the tighness of your tie
> down.  Eventually, you'll 
> want it loose, but if your horse keeps challenging
> you, don't be afraid to 
> make it tighter.
> Please, be careful.  My techniques are my own;
> they're not certified by John 
> Lyons or Monty Roberts.  And I'd hate to read a post
> that someone's ended up 
> in the hospital because they tried one of my ideas. 
> But this one does work, 
> for me and my nutty Saddlebred, and a few others
> I've tried it on.
> cya,
> Howard
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