Re: RC: Problem with stall walking mare

[Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>]

Prefer pasture myself but in winter months, barn alfalfa is many times
the only thing available or even affordable (@$150-160/ton!).  Forage
mix in these parts (central CA) is getting increasingly harder to find
now that everyone and their cousin has decided to become a vintner. At
this point I am beginning to hate wine--- margaritas are FAR more
healthy for you with that vitamin C ;-)
Oat hay (which my horses use as bedding most times) can go up to over
$160/ton and there is so much waste! I've been afraid to use pellets or
cubes due to horror stories and the fact that my horses will chew fences
if they can't chew hay or pasture. I know that regular alfalfa during
the growing season is so high in calcium that horses get leg cramps---
Hal did and that is why we had to find and pay the high price for forage
mixes for him. What do you other Californians use when pasture is gone
late summer/winter?
Bette

Carolyn Burgess wrote:
> 
> Yup! Ours is anywhere from orchard grass to timothy, maybe with a little mix
> of alfalfa.  Nobody around here really feeds alfalfa.  To rich and
> expensive.
> 
> >From: Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>
> >Reply-To: woa@stormnet.com
> >To: Carolyn Burgess <carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com>, ridecamp@endurance.net
> >Subject: RC:  Problem with stall walking mare
> >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:58:34 -0800
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> >Yes, and we're probably talking about different kinds of hay--- mine is
> >alfalfa--- very rich in protein.
> >Bette
> >
> >Carolyn Burgess wrote:
> > >
> > > I forget the difference in bale size from the east coast to the west
> >coast.
> > > When talking to someone else who commented about flakes size, I realized
> > > that we need to say pounds, not flakes.  My bales average 50 - 55 lbs,
> >so I
> > > feed between 25 - 35 lbs a day of hay, depending on the size of my
> >horse.
> > > We have friends in Nevada and their bales of hay are around 120 lbs.
> > >
> > > >From: Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>
> > > >Reply-To: woa@stormnet.com
> > > >To: Carolyn Burgess <carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com>
> > > >CC: anthenamax@aol.com, ridecamp@endurance.net
> > > >Subject: Re: RC:  Problem with stall walking mare
> > > >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:31:34 -0800
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> > > >Boy, Carolyn
> > > >Your part of the country must have waaay different size flakes than we
> > > >have in CA. A flake here ways from 5-9 pounds and usually 7-8.
> >Typically
> > > >2-3 max flakes are fed per day. ROFLMAO until I realized we must be
> > > >talking about different "flakes" OR your horses no longer pace because
> > > >they are so big they CANNOT MOVE!!!
> > > >Bette :-)
> > > >
> > > >Carolyn Burgess wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Meaghan:
> > > > >
> > > > > You need to feed her more hay.  I don't understand this, but why do
> >show
> > > > > peopl feed lots of grain and no hay?  We bought a former halter
> >horse
> > > >who
> > > > > was fed 12 qts of 14% grain a day, and 4 flakes of hay a day.  He
> >weighs
> > > > > about 1200 lbs and was crazy.  We cut him back to 2 lbs of 10% grain
> >and
> > > >he
> > > > > gets about 12 flakes of hay a day.  He also gets worked more.  He
> >has a
> > > >much
> > > > > better disposition than when we got him and he doesn't have the
> >mental
> > > > > problems when we got him.  I'd really like to hear why show people
> >feed
> > > >the
> > > > > way you do.  Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Carolyn Burgess
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Meaghan Athenamax@aol.com
> > > > > >my mare has been stall walking for that last few month from bordom.
> >she
> > > > > >gets turn out on good days. she is in a pasture by herself but
> >between
> > > >two
> > > > > >horses. she has worn two good size holes in her stall forcing me to
> >mat
> > > >it.
> > > > > >she also has worn a path between the gate and one of the other
> >horses
> > > >near
> > > > > >her. her pasture has no gras and i dont believe any will grow. she
> >is
> > > >now
> > > > > >on a flake of hay out side and two at dinner. three qts of pellets
> >a
> > > >day
> > > > > >plus some suplements. i was thinking of lowering her grain and
> >giving
> > > >her
> > > > > >more hay. she is a show horse and as the weather improves she will
> >be
> > > > > >ridden harder and longer. anyone have any thought to what i should
> >do?
> > > > > >please e-mail me i wont check the site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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